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If i may

edited January 2010 in Buddhism Basics
I understand, its hard for me at times, i start writing and can't stop.
I guess what i should say

is please people, prepare...
if i am not mistaken
soon things will become very clear

another few days is it? or a week?
Then everyone should know...
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  • edited January 2010
    [t:b(ec)]+[t(+-KC)]=i=+-a/d=+-iC=+-(kc)

    where
    t = trust
    b = beliefs
    ec = enviroment chains
    kc = kharma chains
    i = individual
    a = acceptance over ones fate
    d = denial of ones fate
    iC = Individual choices

    This is one way you can view your effects through kharma and how they can effect you, don't know how to represent past lives into this equation
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2010
    You don't.
    The Law of kamma is an unconjecturable one, and it takes someone of a pretty elevated status to consider their past lives in an accurate and precise and succinct way.
    The only thing you can do it to remain in the present and live your life as well as you can by the eightfold path and the precepts, in order to create and perpetuate Positive kamma, and eliminate negative kamma.

    that is:

    i + IC.
  • edited January 2010
    I'm sorry, Things are still coming out fractured, ok, that above formula, i've written a bit more, more about how a build up can occur, just dropping the who personally, even for people that may not believe in coming back into the system of awareness
    but thats more pointed towards helping others understand whats happening, in a more scientific way

    on to a more spiritual way, ive written a rough draft,
    but warning you, I am alot better at relating to people I talk to, I find all this way to impersonal to understand people im talking to, which is very important to relating things to them, words are just to transmit and idea, and a clusmy, people think different ways.

    I'm sorry if my written does fit to proper grammar or spelling, but id appreciate if you could tell me what you think

    My oh My, Don't you see,
    We all exist,together and thus
    We all bargain for things
    in ways we are never aware
    not just with money, not just with stuff
    we bargain with kamma, for things we've done
    and had done to us, to bargin for our next
    chance to be us, but here's the problem
    and its thus, before we can give good kamma
    a problem begins, they get hit with bad kamma
    they get hit as kids, it twists them, it hurts them
    and makes them ache, they turn against all of us
    and thus they hurt the next of us, and as it goes along, it builds
    the world turns, slowly falling, like its dying, like its crying
    see no matter how you view, the more we hurt us, the more it shows
    it shows on tv, it shows in schools
    it shows at work, its shows in animals
    it shows in plants, it shows in water
    see what happens is simple you see
    the more we get hurt, the more we think we need
    and the more we get to bargaining with
    the next time we come, and its more then we can pay
    so we take, from the environment, we take we take
    and now its our mother the aches
    but now understand this, a mother acts like thus
    she'll turn on us, give a spanking, and so no more
    that's what a mothers scorn is but a father
    hoho thus thus, i don't know how we effect him
    careful of your fathers scorn, his words will burn
    your mother may, try to protect you, as always
    but his words will carry, and she may pay too
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2010
    don't worry about them.
    Worry about you, and your perception, and your compassion, and your acceptance of things as they are, because they are as they are.
    You can't change others.
    You can't change things for others.
    you can only change you.

    Learn that.
    Understand that.
    Accept that
    and be with that.
  • edited January 2010
    I just want people to be prepared
    There is gonna be a volcanic eruption
    if you look for evidence you'll find it, trust in yourself
    just ask for help and believe in yourself
  • edited January 2010
    i understand that, but if i shed it its gonna do damage...
  • edited January 2010
    I can't stop it, i put it off for so long, i have pushed it back 3 times, i can't anymore, they're forcing me to shed it, they're protecting me until i do, but i feel for everyone, and im scared for them...
  • edited January 2010
    i demanded to save so many, as many as i could, ill try as hard as i can, i just need everyone to try to, i understand you want to shed if you don't want to suffer for others, but do whatever you can, help as many people as you can, help them understand love for another person, not for any selfish way, just because there another being, and they deserve to be loved, so they can love themselves, and love everyone else
  • edited January 2010
    i demanded to save so many, as many as i could, ill try as hard as i can, i just need everyone to try to, i understand you want to shed if you don't want to suffer for others, but do whatever you can, help as many people as you can, help them understand love for another person, not for any selfish way, just because there another being, and they deserve to be loved, so they can love themselves, and love everyone else

    Thank You, and OK!
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited January 2010
    [t:b(ec)]+[t(+-KC)]=i=+-a/d=+-iC=+-(kc)

    where
    t = trust
    b = beliefs
    ec = enviroment chains
    kc = kharma chains
    i = individual
    a = acceptance over ones fate
    d = denial of ones fate
    iC = Individual choices

    This is one way you can view your effects through kharma and how they can effect you, don't know how to represent past lives into this equation

    *Radios in Fivebells*

    What's with all these equations lately? :p

    I don't understand this Thread. Any of it. :wtf:
  • FoibleFullFoibleFull Canada Veteran
    edited January 2010
    Bee jay,
    It will be what it will be. It is okay. Even if the volcano erupts, it will not touch our inner being.
    You will be okay too. Let the steam ooze out slowly.
  • edited January 2010
    I don't think people understand right now, i could scream it at them, but they won't know. Not till after... before then my pure intent to survive will keep those from reading what i write from understanding a word of it... its so hard to describe.. how i could hid myself even from myself....
  • edited January 2010
    Foible, i think i may have crossed paths with you before. I'd love it if everyone, just let go of their beliefs. And just listen to Bryan Adams - Everything I do I do for you

    and for a moment, forget about me. just look at that song, and think of buddha, and that is from his point of view, to you
  • edited January 2010
    i think i understand a little more, you all had to teach me in a way. In a way so unaware, you had to teach me if i just let myself die, i couldn't truely save everyone. My last lesson, only one i really needed, one i always kinda knew but didn't want to accept. Is that if i save myself, ill save so many more of you. I think i understand that now more then ever. When i shed, many will rise, people are already raising in awareness, like a wave. Its cascading up, more and more, in a moment, people came to lvl 1 enlightenment, the realization of self i guess. I can't help but to be me, thats why where ever i go, i ground out negative kharma chains like its nothing... They may try, try as they might, to link me as Buddha and jesus, but it doesn't matter thats not who i am. Buddha never came back as him, he was taken out of the system, saved in a way, but his soul, his essence was split into 3, for thats the lvl he rose to... I was only 1 piece, this is only the 3rd time ive been back. I've helped sooo much every time i came, sir issac newton, and Nikola Tesla. I've helped as much i could... i always will, don't be scared anymore, im not. I'll survive, and like a wave washing over this world, things are set, and things will change. I'll save you all, you will see. If you want to understand, believe in yourself. Validate your experiences, trust in yourself. If you want to help, just ask yourself. And then look, and you will see, what ever it is that you really need. Not what you want, but what you need. Don't pretend like you know what it is...
  • edited January 2010
    Beejay wrote: »
    ... I'd love it if everyone, just let go of their beliefs. And just listen to Bryan Adams - Everything I do I do for you and for a moment, forget about me. just look at that song, and think of buddha, and that is from his point of view, to you
    Look into my eyes - you will see
    What you mean to me
    Search your heart - search your soul
    And when you find me there you'll search no more

    Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
    You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
    You know it's true
    Everything I do - I do it for you

    Look into your heart - you will find
    There's nothin' there to hide
    Take me as I am - take my life
    I would give it all - I would sacrifice

    Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for
    I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
    Ya know it's true
    Everything I do - I do it for you

    There's no love - like your love
    And no other - could give more love
    There's nowhere - unless you're there
    All the time - all the way

    Oh - you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
    I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
    I would fight for you - I'd lie for you
    Walk the wire for you - ya I'd die for you

    Ya know it's true

    Now, exactly what are we supposed to be looking for in this song that even remotely is connected to the Dhamma? :)
  • edited January 2010
    Stop looking at the words, stop defining them. Words are just to transmit an idea, and the box in the idea, they try to say this means this and only this. Just feel the song, how it makes you feel. Problem now a days is we have defined everything, boxed it all in. An Idea goes beyond words, its a thought without definition that we try to define. Understand this simple truth, if a student fails to learn, its because their teacher failed to see the world as they see it, and show them the simple truths right before their eyes as they see it. Thats why words and how we define them prevent us from truely understanding and communicating with each other...
  • edited January 2010
    Beejay wrote: »
    ..... Thats why words and how we define them prevent us from truely understanding and communicating with each other...

    Okay :)
  • edited January 2010
    ill try to explain to you what happened, and why i am the way i am.
    see as a young child, i heard a friend scream for help, but he was not near me at all, so i just took a step, from where i was to him, i saw this man trying to steal him, trying to hurt him, so i screamed at him, i can't even really remember what i screamed, what the word was. But he stopped, i killed him to save my friend, i was only 6 or 7. Then i saw in his eyes how scared he was of me, even though i did what i did to save him, so i hide myself, from everyone, from myself, i demanded i should suffer for what i did. But what i did was out of an act of pure love for a friend. But we all could not resist me, i demanded to suffer for it, so i did, and i changed the course of history. Blessings began in subtle ways from when i did it. so a wall fell, within a few years. Then i must have been barely 12 or so, and i stopped hidding from myself. And i wanted nothing more to help and save people, but i wouldn't take back what was mine, my true gifts. I thought in a way then, that i wasn't worthy of having them, cause i had killed someone to save a friend. So i demanded another path, to heal people in another way, without any powers, in a simple and mundane way. Everyone told me, i couldn't walk a path, i demanded to do it though, so i surrendered control of myself. then after it was all done, i had walked my path and had the knowledge to heal peoples minds. I rose again, and again i demanded to end peoples suffering... i wanted to do it so bad, i would let myself die so everyone else could heal. So we all had to trick me, so my true soulmate had to come into the system. that way i wouldn't let myself to die.

    You see it was love all along
    I loved everyone
    And it all started with a childs cry....
  • edited January 2010
    I don't care if anyone doesn't believe any of what i've said
    But please, please please please, get away, as far away from yellowstone park please!

    I don't know when it will happen, but it will. so PLEASE run if your near there, go north or south, don't go east, west may not be safe either... just go people, please im begging you, save yourselves..
  • edited January 2010
    Please remember, remember back to september, i had to help myself, so everyone had to lift my suffering for just a while, not all of mine, even everyone that exists together couldn't hold it. Remember that, think about that if you need the proof, remember the times we all cried at the same time for no reason that you remembered. Please believe in yourself, remember.
  • edited January 2010
    If you remember, you have to try and help people, help them remember.
    I went to far, i asked for to much, more then anyone could carry.
    Please help people, help them remember who we really are,
    i hid myself so well, i could scream it at everyone, they won't hear me
    not till after, after i shed, because if I rise a 4th time without shedding it, ill destroy us...

    Theres proof, I need those with the proof, those that bore witness to start speaking. We have to save people....
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited January 2010
    Beejay wrote: »
    I don't care if anyone doesn't believe any of what i've said
    But please, please please please, get away, as far away from yellowstone park please!

    I don't know when it will happen, but it will. so PLEASE run if your near there, go north or south, don't go east, west may not be safe either... just go people, please im begging you, save yourselves..

    What doesn't kill you, only delays the inevitable.
    'Running away' does nothing.
    Death catches up with you sooner or later.
    Why do you have a problem with this?
  • edited January 2010
    I don't know, i care about others so much.. i can feel them, i can feel what they feel, i know whats going to happen and i don't have a choice. Its even being worked so it will protect us in another way...
  • edited January 2010
    I keep jumping through states, sorry.
    I'm letting it go slowly, i understand now
    its just sad, my era would begin as such
    But at least its all saved
    I rose it to enlightenment, before it was built, stored it all, in what to others may have seemed like an instant...
  • edited January 2010
    Chill out Beejay, :)
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited January 2010
    *Radios in Fivebells*

    What's with all these equations lately? :p

    I don't understand this Thread. Any of it. :wtf:

    There is nothing to understand. At best it's a way of gilding an idea with phony scientific mystique. At worst, it's hiding nonsense behind said mystique.
  • edited January 2010
    I'm sorry, I let myself and others doubt myself quite a bit. It had to happen that way, i had to hide myself. Hide when i would come in. Just prepare yourselves

    Things will be much more clear soon enough, I'm not carrying the world for everyone anymore, im putting aside my burdens. I left things hidden for me all over the place. what is going to happen will happen. You could say, I'm going to pick the world up, and drop it on peoples heads...
  • edited January 2010
    One thing ill let you know, in order to protect myself, i caused an error in time, so. Here's my question to you, is it 2010? or is it 2008? or is it really 2012?
  • edited January 2010
    When you hear it, and you will. Remember me, remember. Stop looking at things like wholes. Start looking for pieces, the clues of truth. Remember that truth was never the property of one peoples, one religion, or one philosophy, it was hidden, with all people. Small bits here and there...
  • edited January 2010
    The deciever, the false ego, the id. Its taken control of you, its tarnished all teachings. It reflects into the system. There is one that is decieving you, and there is one thats trying to make you see truth... In a way its not just all people, its also you! remember that please
  • edited January 2010
    I'll give you this, simplest thing. Don't believe who i am, don't think you even know. Just empty your mind, make it clear. Then do nothing more, then make the intent to help. Thats it, nothing more. Don't pretend you know what it is, or what it means. You just need to intend it, and you will set your own course to help. Even if you don't know it
  • edited January 2010
    another way to explain things, if there was a war going on, between truth and deception, what would happen if truth applied the rules from sun tzu art of war?
  • edited January 2010
    to understand buddha's part in this war of truth against lies. Think of the long path....
  • edited January 2010
    its all set, all poised, its been rising up everywhere, so many just want truth. It looks like there is no head, nothing to lead it
  • edited January 2010
    I know its hard to believe, i had to trick everyone, i had to hide everything, half truths half lies. I had to set up everything just right, i talked back and forth through all time. what is going to happen, it can't be undone. Truth will win, You will see Sublime forms again... its coming, you will hear it, you'll hear the call, thats when truth starts its battle.
    Be prepared, care for those around you, help everyone you can. Drop selfishness in every form, don't be fooled by different contexts, selfishness of money, is just as bad as selfishness of spiritual salvation or elevation...

    Remember this though, when i left the hospital, the only ones not fooled, was a monk. He said, I know who you are, I don't doubt you, you can't fool me... so he remembers, he wasn't there till i willed him to be there...
  • edited January 2010
    Finally the last piece has become clear, thats why i had to go through the 6th time. the 6th time through my life, it wasn't for anyone else but me. Its love's gift to me, it let me, just be me, to take away the responsibility of save you all, that is love's gift to me. Ahh i can't wait my love, the 6th rift is already fixed from my view point, i understand now, you transfered me from my past to that day, and back again. So me and my love can just be, and love can teach them... Thank you love, that means more to me then i can ever express...
  • edited January 2010
    These people will think I'm insane, a madman. They'll never believe any of this, till after its all done. Love I am now ready, i've shed it, i feel so light. Oh happiness finally! I hope our poem is grand, i hope you recorded all the lessons, i hope i taught you well, i had 5 life times, i suppose i did. I'll wear the clothes, the goddess choose. Thank you for everything, Teach them well. I guess now its me and my loves adventure, things will be grand for us. Thank you love, thank you for becoming aware. the power of 2 is broken, now the power of 3 has awoken
  • edited January 2010
    Beejay, you keep referring to something that is going to happen soon. Can you please help me understand what it is?
  • edited January 2010
    You will see, most likely tomorrow.. be safe, be happy, be loved
  • edited January 2010
    I'll try to explain it, but i doubt you are aware enough. People feared 2012 so much, it would have made things so much worse, so i caused an error in time, so it would hide. I had to change who i was too, because they wanted to control me, and they wanted to kill me. I hide myself in my doubt, to keep myself unaware, and in doing so, i could hide in front of anyone with doubt. All will become clear, in time my dear...
  • edited January 2010
    you can doubt something that is true and you can doubt something that is false. how do you know if it is true or false?
  • edited January 2010
    You can never truely know, but you can believe whats before you, what you see with your own eyes, validate your experiences.
  • edited January 2010
    My battle with doubt was quite strange, tried to make me feel small, insignificant, insane. Like i wasn't special, but people have been yelling at me my whole life, i am special, i am not insane. Its hard to explain in such a forum, its easier if i was right before you, talking, relating to your views. So i could understand you, so I could show you the truth before you...
  • edited January 2010
    In time, they may refer to me as the starman...
  • AriettaDolenteAriettaDolente Veteran
    edited January 2010
    Beejay wrote: »
    In time, they may refer to me as the starman...
    Starman,

    You couldn't be farther from anything remotely resembling Buddhism. Buddhists practice to see the world clearly. You seem lost in fantasy, and worse, trying to drag others along with you. This runs in opposition to Buddhism. Buddhists seek to simplify, never obfuscate. If you have something to share, share it. Do not mystify it, do not drape it in drama, do not disguise it with mumbo jumbo. Just say it. Games such as this may work in other places, but Buddhists have little regard for them.

    Please, keep it real. If you have a sincere message you feel the need to impart, then please state it plainly, directly, and concisely. If not, then perhaps this isn't the place for you. I think maybe you are here for a reason, and could learn much if you give it a chance. You'll have to drop the games, though.

    One other thing. Even if you were some sort of deity or super-human, as you seem to be implying, that would give you very little credit here. Buddhists generally are not very excited by such beings. You might try a theist forum where people are actually impressed by prophets, angels, gods, and so forth. Seriously, we just don't have much use for all that nonsense.

    Namaste,

    ~ AD
  • edited January 2010
    All these things, you define. You say its this, thats what it is and nothing more, you say we are this, and nothing more, you think we discovered everything, and theres nothing more. This has been happening all through history, this is how we humans keep thinking. You try and find ways, to keep your eyes closed. You hide behind words you think are well defined, you assume they mean the samething to everyone. Like everyone has memorized a dictonary. You assume you say a sentence and people will all think of it the same way. Do you really believe education is memorization? Us humans have been come ill, even sick. Its time for us to change, and remember. I admit maybe i do play some games, maybe im hiding messages. If you don't understand, maybe its not meant for you, maybe its for someone else. You say Plainly, Directly, and Concisely. But how? when everyone understands things there own way? Maybe if i knew you i could explain it to you, but do you really think that same explaination would work on someone else?

    Don't think of who i am, don't try to understand, know yourself. Stop hiding behind your definitions, your only limiting your capacity to understand. Why do you think, like everyone through out history, that we know everything? We always get proven wrong, and everytime we are, we say it again, we know everything now. Like its any different? You limit who you are, you limit what your capable of. Why do you do that? Don't you care about yourself? Stop defining who you think you are. Stop Trying to be, just be. Stop trying to know, just know. Stop trying to see, and just see.
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited January 2010
    Games such as this may work in other places, but Buddhists have little regard for them.

    Is this why of 46 posts, 34 of them belong to Beejay and this Thread has become a monologue? :lol:
    Beejay wrote:
    You will see, most likely tomorrow.. be safe, be happy, be loved

    Hmm. It's tomorrow. Seems to be a pretty typical, ordinary day. But apparently something very significant has/is happening. What am I missing? I want my share of the terror and fear. :)
    You say Plainly, Directly, and Concisely. But how? when everyone understands things there own way?

    Start by explaining what it is you're talking about. "The subject of my nonsensical, delusional, endless ramblings and fear-mongering is _____."
    Why do you think, like everyone through out history, that we know everything?

    Who said anyone thinks we know everything? Buddhism is only concerned with dukkha. The Buddha understood what is necessary to be understood about dukkha so that one can be free of it.

    What are you babbling about, and what does it have to do with dukkha and Buddhism?

    Livejournal.com might be of interest to you.

    And if you haven't met Avalokitesvara yet, I imagine you two would get along well.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited January 2010
    Beejay the way you talk I see some of how my own mind works at times. I have schizophrenia. The thing that I notice in common to me you and my illness is I feel you are making loose associations. Conjecturing unconnected things and building ideas out of thin air seemingly. The messages you are hiding are probably loose associations. When I am sick I think people are giving me messages, reading my mind, etc.

    My buddhist teacher says that what happened to me is that I was having some kind of insightful experiences but that I got stuck to the experience and wove a story around it in order to trap the good feeling of that experience.

    Those are my words. She just said I was attached to my experience. I kind of filled in a little juice to the description.

    This is not a mental health professionals opinion. This is just one human to another I am wondering if you are ok mentally.
  • StaticToyboxStaticToybox Veteran
    edited January 2010
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  • edited January 2010
    Perhaps I'm only here so people will challenge my thoughts, so i can push my understanding further....
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