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every action has a .....

edited January 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Can you guys clarify 'this'.....somehow.

That every .... of my actions and thoughts ......has a reaction(s)
It just seems too complicated for me to actually grasp the SCOPE...of...or

The implication is ...just too huge for me..
I'm really losing my mind.

I 'do' and 'think'........ literally... over a million things per day....
and...
until just 30 minutes ago, I didn't realize how EPIC this fact actually was..

Here I am a creature shifting between worlds, at light speed.
Affecting every single thing...

It's overwhelming.
I'm afraid to do anything now, I'm not ready to do ANYTHING.

Comments

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited January 2010
    sounds pretty clear to me. How clear do you want it to be? :D Even confusion is clear when seen clearly. But I think this is a good insight. Just let it be and dissolve and return.
  • edited January 2010
    try not to think about it too much i guess, just try to observe it as an everyday thing. it's in the ordinary way of things, we observe the karmic pattern to things all the time. you post a thread and people respond to thread. you eat food and like the food, eat more food. you think a thought and the thought goes back to the mouth and brain that sprouted it, or out into the air and free from your mind forever. you practice buddhism and become more like buddha.
  • edited January 2010
    you don't understand.
    If i act a certain way..
    I have INFLUENCE

    in your own life... I can change it drastically with just ONE written word on this message board. here I'll prove it..
    "Sky!"
    watch how this koan will affect all your lives ...all of you who read this.. simply 'Sky'

    My problem is, I can't keep track of the things I do, because once I do them, like in the past 24 years I've done more than a quintillion things, they've all dissolved into an area beyond my consciousness... but who knows where a piece of garbage I left 23 years ago, when I was 1 years old...where did it end up?

    All the people I met in my life, How have knowing ME...changed THEM and all the people THEY will affect...

    It's just too damn much.. I need supernatural intelligence..

    the thing is, you guys.

    if I am INFECTED with SAMSARA, I will INFECT other people. It's as simple as that I believe.
    That is why IT, holds such sway.
  • edited January 2010
    samsara doesnt actually exist, and you dont need to understand the whole complex set of every action you do and what effect it has, knowing the principle is enough, just calm down and do some zazen...!
  • edited January 2010
    zazen is useless you zen idiot!:mad:

    actually I disagree with that:D, Zazen.. Is maybe the most useful tool humanity has...as it is ...right now.

    but fk that. I can't ...I........I............i.....

    hold on... wow ...will get back to you

    on this one, might take a long time. ty.
  • edited January 2010
    John Rambo

    "WHO ARE YOU!!!?!?!?

    WHO ARE ANY OF YOU?!?!?!?!?!?
    "
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited January 2010
    What do you know about anything in particular? Much less your every thought and movement. You do not know.
  • edited January 2010
    Have you ever heard of chaos theory? It's pretty much is about how everything we do, even the way we think, changes the entire coarse of our lives.

    Then there's everyone's favorite, the butterfly effect, which says that when a butterfly flaps it's wings, eventually that gust of air will "ultimately alter the path of a tornado or delay, accelerate or even prevent the occurrence of a tornado in a certain location."

    So that little flap changes the coarse of weather forever.
  • FoibleFullFoibleFull Canada Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Can you guys clarify 'this'.....somehow.

    That every .... of my actions and thoughts ......has a reaction(s)
    It just seems too complicated for me to actually grasp the SCOPE...of...or

    The implication is ...just too huge for me..
    I'm really losing my mind.

    I 'do' and 'think'........ literally... over a million things per day....
    and...
    until just 30 minutes ago, I didn't realize how EPIC this fact actually was..

    Here I am a creature shifting between worlds, at light speed.
    Affecting every single thing...

    It's overwhelming.
    I'm afraid to do anything now, I'm not ready to do ANYTHING.

    One of the great beauties of Buddhism is how it parallels psychology. Everything thought and action has a reaction. Yes ... but to others it is no big deal. Your effect on the external world is quite negligible (unless you are a terrorist) ... the primary effect is on yourself.

    We each have habits and patterns in our brain. I have heard Buddhist teachers call them imprints. We tend to think and act in ways consistent with those imprints ... unless we consciously set out about to create new and different imprints, such as those that we create when we practice Buddhism. So everything we think and do either reinforces existing imprints or creates new ones.

    I have heard Buddhist teachers call these imprints "karma". So, every moment of every day we are creating our future karma by the imprints we choose to reinforce. If you overreact emotionally (leading to feelings of being overwhelmed), then those are the imprints you are reinforcing. It has been happening every day of your life and you didnt even know it. Now you know. You are fortunate. Now you have a choice.
  • edited January 2010
    FoibleFull wrote: »
    We each have habits and patterns in our brain. I have heard Buddhist teachers call them imprints. We tend to think and act in ways consistent with those imprints ... unless we consciously set out about to create new and different imprints, such as those that we create when we practice Buddhism. So everything we think and do either reinforces existing imprints or creates new ones.

    I can't remember who said it, but I believe someone famous said something along the lines of:

    "Be aware of your thoughts, because your thoughts become your words. Be aware of your words, because your words become your actions. Be aware of your actions, because your actions become your habits. Be aware of your habits, because your habits become your future."
  • StaticToyboxStaticToybox Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    you don't understand.
    If i act a certain way..
    I have INFLUENCE

    in your own life... I can change it drastically with just ONE written word on this message board. here I'll prove it..
    "Sky!"
    watch how this koan will affect all your lives ...all of you who read this.. simply 'Sky'.

    If it makes you feel any better I don't think this had quite the effect on me that you were thinking it would have.
  • edited January 2010
    Takeahnase wrote: »
    If it makes you feel any better I don't think this had quite the effect on me that you were thinking it would have.

    Hahaha, but it did affect you enough to take the time to write a response. ;)

    Even if it was only for 5 seconds, he did change the coarse of your day

    Which might make you 5 seconds late for work...
    Which might get you fired...
    Which might make you...hmm I think I should stop while I'm ahead. I'll just blow my own mind if I keep going.

    But I'm just splitting hairs :p
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited January 2010
    Let it be known simply actions have effects, we will create actions and we will experience their effects, effects may ripen immediatly or they may ripen in the distant or not so distant future, The buddha said an action is never wasted.

    So bearing this in mind avoid negativity and practise only virtue.:o
  • edited January 2010
    FoibleFull wrote: »
    Everything thought and action has a reaction. Yes ... but to others it is no big deal. Your effect on the external world is quite negligible .

    I think you are wrong about this. You do too upon further reflection.
  • edited January 2010
    Also Caz, glad to see you again on THIS forum.
    You are right and the Buddha was right, how actions CANNOT be wasted,
    it's almost similar to a law of physics..

    how could it be wasted...the butterfly effect is real isn't it? I believe it is a fact.

    you know..... a small snowball, rolling, with a LITTLE momentum down a mountain. slowly slowly it picks up more snow...until it almost stops itself....but its gathered weight urges it forward...and lo and behold, before you know it, it's a catalyst to a LIFE altering avalanche...that maybe kills some people and damages some people beyond belief....all because It was me, who decided to throw a snowball at my girlfriend ...SHE decided to dodge it...

    and thus a few people died, a few people ended up buried and survived... ALL of this from a simple thing...

    So I ask you ... how can we dare pretend we are responsible for our actions, when our actions and their consequences , escape our intellect entirely.

    it actually makes me think ... or...makes me SICK, to think of how many people I've inadvertently MURDERED with a breath in the wrong direction...

    (hurricane Katrina....Maybe my fault for smoking a bong...WTF KNOWS")
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Also Caz, glad to see you again on THIS forum.
    You are right and the Buddha was right, how actions CANNOT be wasted,
    it's almost similar to a law of physics..

    how could it be wasted...the butterfly effect is real isn't it? I believe it is a fact.

    you know..... a small snowball, rolling, with a LITTLE momentum down a mountain. slowly slowly it picks up more snow...until it almost stops itself....but its gathered weight urges it forward...and lo and behold, before you know it, it's a catalyst to a LIFE altering avalanche...that maybe kills some people and damages some people beyond belief....all because It was me, who decided to throw a snowball at my girlfriend ...SHE decided to dodge it...

    and thus a few people died, a few people ended up buried and survived... ALL of this from a simple thing...

    So I ask you ... how can we dare pretend we are responsible for our actions, when our actions and their consequences , escape our intellect entirely.

    it actually makes me think ... or...makes me SICK, to think of how many people I've inadvertently MURDERED with a breath in the wrong direction...

    (hurricane Katrina....Maybe my fault for smoking a bong...WTF KNOWS")


    Its complex and mind blowing but the simple thing that needs to be understood and practised is virtue, from positive intention and action will stem positive results.
    These actions leave imprints upon our mind a potential awaiting appropriate causes and conditions to arise, this is why it is so important from little things stem big things, we already have so much negative potential floating around in our mind we should not indulge in delusions so they can ripen, This is why it is so important to keep control of our mind.
    Yes its nice to see me back. :)
  • edited January 2010
    you're right man.

    it's just hard...lets say for me..
    when I'm acting from the GREY perspective area.

    what consequences will follow? so.... impossible
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    you're right man.

    it's just hard...lets say for me..
    when I'm acting from the GREY perspective area.

    what consequences will follow? so.... impossible

    Well its simple enough for me to say dont act from the grey area but i know it can be hard to change how you view things.

    Life can be very shit, but it can get worse. Death can be bad and then it can get worse. I find its helpfull for me personally to meditate on the sufferings of the lower realms and then upon death, they are morbid subjects to but it does put things in perspective. :o
  • StaticToyboxStaticToybox Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Also Caz, glad to see you again on THIS forum.
    You are right and the Buddha was right, how actions CANNOT be wasted,
    it's almost similar to a law of physics..

    how could it be wasted...the butterfly effect is real isn't it? I believe it is a fact.

    you know..... a small snowball, rolling, with a LITTLE momentum down a mountain. slowly slowly it picks up more snow...until it almost stops itself....but its gathered weight urges it forward...and lo and behold, before you know it, it's a catalyst to a LIFE altering avalanche...that maybe kills some people and damages some people beyond belief....all because It was me, who decided to throw a snowball at my girlfriend ...SHE decided to dodge it...

    and thus a few people died, a few people ended up buried and survived... ALL of this from a simple thing...

    So I ask you ... how can we dare pretend we are responsible for our actions, when our actions and their consequences , escape our intellect entirely.

    it actually makes me think ... or...makes me SICK, to think of how many people I've inadvertently MURDERED with a breath in the wrong direction...

    (hurricane Katrina....Maybe my fault for smoking a bong...WTF KNOWS")

    I really think you're ascribing yourself way too much influence. Relax, breathe in, and stop worrying about things that are far beyond your sphere of influence.
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited January 2010
    That a fart may or may not have sparked some bizzare chain of events which led to the formation or destruction of a galaxy somewhere out thar is irrelevent to Buddhist practice. When you find yourself creating dukkha, "papancizing," as a result of a Buddhist teaching, then it's time to rexamine the teaching.
    if I am INFECTED with SAMSARA, I will INFECT other people. It's as simple as that I believe.

    We're responsible for our own dukkha as well as our own liberation. You're starting to sound as if you have a God complex. :crazy:
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited January 2010
    That a fart may or may not have sparked some bizzare chain of events which led to the formation or destruction of a galaxy somewhere out thar is irrelevent to Buddhist practice. When you find yourself creating dukkha, "papancizing," as a result of a Buddhist teaching, then it's time to rexamine the teaching.



    We're responsible for our own dukkha as well as our own liberation. You're starting to sound as if you have a God complex. :crazy:


    He wouldnt be the first one on here with that though would he ? :grin:
  • FoibleFullFoibleFull Canada Veteran
    edited January 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    I think you are wrong about this. You do too upon further reflection.

    Not really ... the effect of ONE individual on the world is quite negligible. That's because there are roughly 6.7 billion humans impacting the world, plus all the butterflies! One drop of water in the ocean does not impact the ocean very much.

    We are NOT that important, TF.
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited January 2010
    He wouldnt be the first one on here with that though would he ?

    No, definitely not. I promise to do my best not to sneeze in your direction but I can't make any promises. :coffee:
  • edited January 2010
    I think you have to focus on yourself.

    Be aware of what you're doing but don't become obsessed.
    Be conscious of your behaviour but don't let that haunt you.
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited January 2010
    No, definitely not. I promise to do my best not to sneeze in your direction but I can't make any promises. :coffee:

    LOL :D Good the weather here is aleady bad enough :o
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