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When you just take yourself too seriously.
caz
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Thought id make this my first thread.
As to why ive started this i think its very relevant to these little corners of the internet when buddhists take themselves way to seriously and end up becoming pompous windbags incapable of relating to human experience, i should know i feel ive been one of them LOL.
Another good example is when you meet people you disagree with on the internet E-SANGHA was a amusing watering hole where giant dharmic ego's met to duke it out who's version of self salvation was better less superstious or more dogmatic
Its easy to become wrapped up in self cherishing when we cling to our views as supremly precious everyone has their own brand of dharma should we not rejoice instead of throwing a tantrum? or meet criticism with love and compassion instead of taking it as a personal insult ? My all time favourite one has to be the angry buddhist syndrome it makes me wonder why these forums even bother using this emocon :mad: it just encourages it.
If we take ourselves less seriously its a better atmosphere for everyone newbies especially who have in the past been taking aback by such sheer arrogence of certain people ( my self included ) or the pontifications without logic or reason, far from the attitudes of love and compassion you would expect to meet with on a buddhist forum.
No self no problem.
As to why ive started this i think its very relevant to these little corners of the internet when buddhists take themselves way to seriously and end up becoming pompous windbags incapable of relating to human experience, i should know i feel ive been one of them LOL.
Another good example is when you meet people you disagree with on the internet E-SANGHA was a amusing watering hole where giant dharmic ego's met to duke it out who's version of self salvation was better less superstious or more dogmatic
Its easy to become wrapped up in self cherishing when we cling to our views as supremly precious everyone has their own brand of dharma should we not rejoice instead of throwing a tantrum? or meet criticism with love and compassion instead of taking it as a personal insult ? My all time favourite one has to be the angry buddhist syndrome it makes me wonder why these forums even bother using this emocon :mad: it just encourages it.If we take ourselves less seriously its a better atmosphere for everyone newbies especially who have in the past been taking aback by such sheer arrogence of certain people ( my self included ) or the pontifications without logic or reason, far from the attitudes of love and compassion you would expect to meet with on a buddhist forum.
No self no problem.
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Self-cherishing also pops up as paranoia on forums. Once we believe someone has an 'agenda' we may interpret their every post as an attack.
I'm guilty as charged on all of the above, and probably some more we haven't mentioned yet!
As they say, bring all blame into one. All blame for such actions ends up with the one issue - our self-cherishing delusions.
Tell that to ignorance
Oh yes cant forget the agenda people the internet conspiritors
The shadows are out to get them LOL.
Its funny how most of the time we neglect to train in patience when confronted with difficult situations its even more laughable we have problems doing this on the internet !
Beautiful words
- Raven
(Yes, that was a joke.):rolleyes:
Very true dear, we forget on the internet
Ah thats the thing isnt it if you continually focus on me being upset you always will be upset this is just pandering to self grasping delusion, if you have a prolonged condition i find its always helpfull to use your daily struggles with life as practise, a very good one indeed is using your own illness to help other if you are familiar with taking mediation this is very good for such circumstance take the suffering of others onto yourself mentally and you will find that self grasping just begin to eb away
Oh dear ! :eek:
:smilec:
Ah i really have much work to do retraining my mind, allowing the regular paths my brain uses when reacting to certain things to grow over, and to create new and more positive paths.
...people enjoy having answers, even when they're obvious; because people enjoy chattering like it's an extra bodily function. Why else?
My current philosophy is to just 'poo and go', if the need arises. yes, often: 'oh no! I did a whoopsie!'. Failing that I can always go straight to task manager and >end process<
This is the really juicy stuff of true practice, isn't it? It's the nitty gritty, dirty, uncomfortable work.
And talk about being guilty of it! You wouldn't believe how self-cherishing and self-important I have been in the past and how much work I have to do regarding it.
I had huge problems with self-importance when I was a child. I remember when I was a very little child, I'm talking 2 or 3 years old, I couldn't stand to be teased by my older siblings. I took myself so seriously that I'd go into a rage or cry. Seriously.
And it went hand in hand with my major issues of shame. I felt ashamed all the time about everything. Embarrassed and ashamed of just being human. When I made a mistake, even a tiny one, it cut through me like a knife. Now granted, my father was a very violent man and he was big, over 6 feet, and would hit or beat us for the slightest things, even things we didn't do and at the back of my mind I was always afraid of being killed or that my mother or siblings might be killed. So maybe I equated mistakes with my fear of the violent response I would get. I don't know. But I definitely know that for me, it was the shame that exacerbated my normal childhood egoist sense of self. It was the shame that twisted it into a huge, brittle, fragile sense self-importance.
Wow! Sorry. That was inappropriately heavy for the thread, wasn't it?
No it was rather good getting down to the causes
My egotistical responses often arose from impure view, viewing others as the enemy, then i realized this was stupidity and caused only suffering so i changed it.
I also just wanted to add that it was such a monumental relief to find out how unimportant I actually am and the teaching of not-self has been a saviour to me in so many ways. This thing I was trying to so hard to protect doesn't even exist! How absolutely wonderful!! That's the best thing I've ever learned in my whole life. I'm free!! Lol!!
Dance !!!
Yes! Exactly! Finding out that I'm the not the cause/center of the universe lifted a weight off of me. I feel lighter!
"On this day, countless lives were born and just as many lives will fade away.It will be the same tomorrow, and the day after that over and over again. Your life is just one amoungst the multitude."
I wish I could get that as a bumpersticker...
Bit to long for a bumper sticker dont you think Marmalade ? Suffice to say i think shit happens encaptures the buddhist spirit perfectly
LOL
You're right, never use 7 words when 4 will do.
Aye aye !
I'm a gentler soul. I prefer:
HIT ME AND DIE!!
LOL
Sounds fun !!!
You're taking the post way too seriously!
Sorry, I had to say it. Thanks for allowing me the giggle!
I have never met HHDL - but it seems like everytime I see or hear him speak or answer questions, the "humbleness" just oozes out of him. It seems like he has no problem laughing off the fact that he doesn't have the answer to something instead of making crap up to bloat his own self-image.
Although most of my posts speak otherwise to what I'm about to say but, I do believe it is a good idea to just keep yer yap shut sometimes. Whether it's because you have nothing beneficial to say OR you're better off NOT mouthing off something that you ~truly~ haven't had the time to think about.
Like I always say, "A closed mouth gathers no knuckles."
-bf
I must agree. Many times I type out a post and think "What rubbish"! And delete it. Luckily I type fast but say too much and then it won't post. Then I reread it and realize I've said nothing of any value or help. I know the sound of my voice and it's not all that interesting.