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So that's two of my threads now "Closed."
The last one thanks to one man who in private message has pretty much told me he will continually harang my posts until I leave or am banned.
Its all not very Buddhist...
Would it not be better to have an "ignore function" on the Forum?
It would put an end to such petty, unwholesome and fruitless squabbles:)
mat
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Thank works:)
lets hope people use it instead of acting like they are angry children...
As far as an ignore function, I believe we do have one. I have excercised it in keeping myself out of things that I do not think are constructive. The ignore function is simply not to discuss someone if you think it will degenerate.
I suspect that some people may be upset Mat because you are presenting controversial ideas. I for one have no problem with it although I have not found discussions with you fruitful to be honest. I think your ideas are harmless. Someone can test them for themselves and if they are liberating then they must be good ideas. If they are not liberating then someone may abandon or discard your ideas.
No you right, sorry. I guess i was irked that it seems people can foce censorship of discussion just by insulting.
frankly, closing threads seems really disproportionate:)
Exactly. I may well be wrong on all i say here:) People should lighten up:)
Mat
I imagine it best to use this forum as an opportunity to practice truly compassionate communication.
My past apparently not compassionate communications with you have been a direct and frankly blunt response to perception of the use of disparaging and derogatory characterizations of others as part of an attempt to justify a point of view.
I recon that, if we want to avoid future conflicts and sanctions on this forum we consider a couple of things before we actually submit our posts.
First, We may ask ourselves, Is this really skillful communication?
Second, How does what I'm communicating uphold the principle and practice of Right Speech?
As you have already publicly stated, 'The last one thanks to one man who in private message has pretty much told me he will continually harang my posts until I leave or am banned.', which appears as pretty disparaging blaming.
I'm posting a public clarification of what was written to you. Mat, If you are incapable of communicating without using disparaging and derogatory statements, I will intentionally choose to continue to address your posting of disparaging and derogatory characterizations of other individuals, groups, and/or beliefs posting. I will not use the same means I used the last time I addressed this issue, because it was 'naughty' and sanctioned. I will, although, excerpt specific instances of such communication on your part and forward that information to the forum moderators with a complaint stating the problem as I imagine it - because that is how I understand this is to be handled. It's actually taken me a couple of hard lessons to come around to this choice, 'cuz, as many on this forum know by now, I much prefer direct communication. Mat, I invite you to excerpt what I actually wrote in the communication to you and present it publicly.
Jeffrey and Mundus, I agree with you both and apologize if my posting this here appears inappropriate.
Mat, I thought we were doing quite well communicating and working on the issue. I'm sorry to see that you still harbor negativity.
I want to publicly recommend that you may benefit from learning about compassionate communication technology.
I particularly find, 'Non-Violent Communication' very beneficial (not that I'm really very good at it myself but I'm working at it). Here are a couple of links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication
http://www.cnvc.org/
I wish you well.
Oh Bob! It wasnt you I was referring to! You have been charming in PM, I still intend to reply to your post (I will tomorrow) - but it requires more than a pithy few lines:)
My point was that somone told me (in PM) that they would harang my threads, and that that was never going to be productive. It was more about the functioning of the forum than any tattletale, but as said, I shouldnt have mentioned it.
As a general principle, if people get annoyed by others here they should do one of two things:
1) As themselves why
2) Ignore
Well wishes and genuinely no antagonism from me:)
Mat
Please excuse me for my paranoia, I bow in deep regret.
I've been really happy with our communication lately and inspired by your willingness and hard work.
I wish we all can find ways to meet and communicate with each other so that we can create the causes and conditions of happiness as we express our caring, respect and dignity for one another.
LOL:) This fricking internet:p These darn texted based mediums. etc etc:)
Peace:)
Mat
No hidden agenda here, MatSalted, but its a controversial subject, and perhaps 'least said, soonest mended' is a suitable adage, here.
As a general note to ALL members:
If you have any problems, concerns, difficulties or threatening PMs from anyone else - please forward the offending PM to Admin/Moderators, and request we deal with the situation.
Don't reply, don't rise to the bait, don't play into their hands.
For the 'guilty parties, a thread of this kind is "forewarned is fore-armed" and is merely satisfying because - they've got to you.
Mat: if you wish to pursue this - and have not already done so - I suggest you copy the offending PM to the appropriate parties.
many thanks everyone.
Fede.