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a few questions :-)

NamelessRiverNamelessRiver Veteran
edited February 2010 in Meditation
Can you really get rid of thoughts and get the so called one-pointedness or they occur naturally?

Is the frequency in which these thoughts arise related directly to how far you are in practice?

If I have a hyper-active mind can I rely only in analytical meditations or should I always have some time for serenity?

What is the importance of serenity meditation?

What if I remind myself of a horrible event every time I meditate?

What if my legs hurt, can I do it lying down?

What is dedication of merit afterward meditation? I mean is it like I loose what I just did to give it away?

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  • edited February 2010
    Hi nameless,

    You're soooo clever ;););)

    Okay, I'll bite!!:lol:

    Isn't it the natural function of mind to think? Doesn't one-pointedness just happen? and practice help?

    If not, would practice at least decrease grasping/attachment?

    Is cultivating tranquility a good thing!?!

    Does turning down the heat on a boiling pot of water help reduce disturbance in the water, aiding clarity?

    Will you embrace it with tranquility and watch it arise, endure, and fade away?

    Will you fall asleep?

    Would you like to give a little merit to the universal merit piggy bank? "For the benefit of all beings" - ya ole' Bodhisattva you!!:)
  • jinzangjinzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Can you really get rid of thoughts and get the so called one-pointedness or they occur naturally?

    Trying to get rid of thoughts is itself a thought, so you can't eliminate them in that way. Through the technique of shamatha practice they gradually diminish.
    Is the frequency in which these thoughts arise related directly to how far you are in practice?

    Somewhat. But a better guide to how well your practice is working is whether your negative emotions (greed, anger, etc.) are decreasing and positive emotions increasing.
    If I have a hyper-active mind can I rely only in analytical meditations or should I always have some time for serenity?

    If your mind is hyper-active it sounds like shamatha is a good practice for you
    What is the importance of serenity meditation?
    What if I remind myself of a horrible event every time I meditate?

    Stay with the thought and don't push it away.
    What if my legs hurt, can I do it lying down?

    When your legs start hurting, stretch them out or do walking meditation. When the pain is relieved, continue sitting practice.
    What is dedication of merit afterward meditation? I mean is it like I loose what I just did to give it away?

    The purpose of dedication is to keep meditation practice from becoming another form of egotistical grasping.
  • edited February 2010
    I don't think there's any reason why you shouldn't meditate laying down, if you find this works better for you. The only potential problem is that you might just fall asleep instead. ;) But if you try to meditate at a time during the day when you're less likely to be tired, obviously you'll decrease the risk of this happening. I normally meditate laying down and I find this works fine for me.

    A more general tip I once read for trying to quiet a busy a mind, which is not really related to meditation, but has the advantage that it's easy to do at any time: Wonder what you'll think of next.

    I don't think I need add anything else as it seems to have already all been covered. :)
  • DeshyDeshy Veteran
    edited February 2010
    I will quote my meditation handbook and reply you the best I can. But if you can buy it, I recommend Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond as a good read which will get most quetsions sorted out
    Can you really get rid of thoughts and get the so called one-pointedness or they occur naturally?

    They occure naturally. It happens in higher samadhi states and you cannot will your way or think your way into these states. As your mind increases in stillness they will naturally appear. The more you chase after it the less likely it is to appear. So let go and focus on the breath and the stillness. The rest will just happen

    Is the frequency in which these thoughts arise related directly to how far you are in practice?

    Might be. The more you practice (right practice) the more your mind will be inclined to stillness thus better chance of getting into these states

    If I have a hyper-active mind can I rely only in analytical meditations or should I always have some time for serenity?

    I think Samadhi (attentive stillness) is really important before you get into any vipassana at all. From what I have read so far there is no point in practicing vipassana or analysing things when your mind is not stilled in meditation. If you do then it will just be a load of inner chatter and noise. So I think you should practice samadhi first

    What is the importance of serenity meditation?

    Never heard of anything by the name "serenity meditation". Sorry

    What if I remind myself of a horrible event every time I meditate?

    Why do you do that? I start meditation by taking the mind to the present moment. Forget the past, forget the future, drop fantasising, drop the inner chatter and focus on the present moment. Silent awareness. "There is the sound of the fan", "that's my mum talking over the phone" etc and then slowly drop the labelling and just be aware of the sounds and feeling in the present moment without inner chatter. When you are stable in this state slowly drift your attentin to the breath. Everytime the mind roams repeat the steps.

    What if my legs hurt, can I do it lying down?

    Yes. You can meditate lying down; why not? But people don't do that because you end up sleeping :D I have tried it and next time I wake up I have wasted many hours. So it is best to meditate in a pose which is not too harsh and not too comfy. If your leg hurts how about meditating while sitting on a chair?

    What is dedication of merit afterward meditation? I mean is it like I loose what I just did to give it away?

    Sorry, I don't get the question properly
  • Floating_AbuFloating_Abu Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Can you really get rid of thoughts and get the so called one-pointedness or they occur naturally?

    It is possible to attain the thoughtless state (though this is not absent mindedness nor does it preclude thought), but this is through a process of naturalness, and not mere will power. One of the best techniques is meditation. It is not an overnight process however, and requires years of dedicated practice ie even when you have given up
    Is the frequency in which these thoughts arise related directly to how far you are in practice?

    Progress is a subtle error. It is far better to just meditate, just practice. Continuity is very important.
    If I have a hyper-active mind can I rely only in analytical meditations or should I always have some time for serenity?

    I personally think it is best you start with samatha meditation. Google Ajahn Sumedo/samatha, or alternatively zazen practices are the same.
    What is the importance of serenity meditation?

    I do not know what you mean by serenity meditation, but as Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche was reported to have said, meditation is not a holiday from irritation. Although Ajahn Chah did say, meditation is a holiday for the heart. Both are right IMO.
    What if I remind myself of a horrible event every time I meditate?

    It is important to know that we face all sorts of things in meditation, namely because we are now squarely facing ourself. For more experienced practitioners it is possible to stay with this, and see the transiency of all, but I would recommend that you practice with a (real life) teacher and Sangha that you can trust also. Don't worry, you are not alone in what you face.
    What if my legs hurt, can I do it lying down?
    I am not clear as to what extent you say your legs hurt. If it is common pain, everyone experiences this I suspect. If it is something more chronic or serious, I would recommend you discuss this with your teacher and or doctor. There are also many postures that one can meditate in. If you google MRO and zazen, there you will find many described postures. It is important the back is straight and the body has sufficient stability for you to focus on your practice. Body pain can be part of this of course but as I am not familiar with your situation personally (there is only so much we can gauge over internet forums :)) I would recommend you review the above steps yourself and with someone in person.

    For someone with general pain, I would recommend persisting with the strength of a selected posture, which in Buddhist circles, is typically seated. Most common is lotus, half lotus, burmese, seiza and maybe quarter lotus I believe. As jinzang said it is possible to also do stretches to assist with the posture although in my own tradition, we do not move in response to pain immediately. It is all part of our practice although this is not harmful to the body.
    What is dedication of merit afterward meditation? I mean is it like I loose what I just did to give it away?

    jinzang (answered above) would know more about this than I, however, I would say it is like a prayer, an offering, as in truth we don't own anything in the first place.

    Best wishes,

    Abu
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