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The Now

edited February 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Alright, I'm a bit confused guys.

From what I understand, you can never escape 'now'. But my experience of now, the thoughts and emotions, can never be experienced exactly as things are happening, right? Even if it's nanoseconds after the event, my experience is always a reaction, never the actual event.

So if my experience isn't happening in 'the now' does that mean that all of experience is an afterthought? Have I already made the decisions and are constantly experiencing the results of my decisions?

Or I am not making the decisions at all, and decisions are something as automatic as the heart beating and the lungs breathing?

My experience feels like it's always one step behind. That by thinking, or rather by identifying with thoughts, I have already turned away from 'now'.

I want to understand it, but it's like trying to look at my own eyeball.

Comments

  • RenGalskapRenGalskap Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Marmalade wrote: »
    I want to understand it, but it's like trying to look at my own eyeball.
    That's true.
  • edited February 2010
    GREAT Koan!!

    :bigclap:
  • edited February 2010
    what do you mean by "now"?
    you are aware of your experience at some point. the things that caused this happened in the past.

    i'm not sure if we're thinking of the same thing, but by your words:
    Marmalade wrote:
    Or I am not making the decisions at all, and decisions are something as automatic as the heart beating and the lungs breathing?
    I see that they could describe something I have been thinking about.

    How much of our (mental and physical) action is conscious and how much is subconscious?

    A human is a machine, a program, and a consciousness. The program creates a "reality" and then uses these ideas to seek or avoid. The actions of seeking and avoiding can take many forms, including speech, thought, and ego.
    The relationship between the program, the actions it causes, and consciousness is confusing, and I think it has to do with what you're talking about?
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited February 2010
    How accurate is your memory of the past? Is it not happening 'now'?
  • edited February 2010
    my memory of the past is distorted. it's more of an analysis of the past. i think i see the past through ego. not good.
  • edited February 2010
    Marmalade wrote: »
    Have I already made the decisions and are constantly experiencing the results of my decisions?

    Or I am not making the decisions at all, and decisions are something as automatic as the heart beating and the lungs breathing?

    making a decision, being aware of making a decision. Same thing? Who's making the decision? Who knows that a decision has been made? Who then goes about the task of justifying why that was the right decision? is it different when you're being more mindful and less reactive?
  • ansannaansanna Veteran
    edited February 2010
    actually the past is only illusion of distorted memories, the future is yet to come, the only real for the mind is the moment now , what is a moment - as nagarjuna state 1/16 of your snap of the fingers. this moment is where you make the right cause to shape yourself & your future
  • edited February 2010
    ansanna wrote: »
    actually the past is only illusion of distorted memories,

    To reinforce this, recent scientific evidence seems to show that every time we "recall" a memory, the process of doing so distorts it just a little more, polluting it with conditioning and experiences in a subtle way that we are largely unaware of, and due to other limitations about the way the brain works.

    Learning this really helped me to embrace the Buddha's "Discourse on Knowing the Better Way to Live Alone".
  • edited February 2010
    No past, because it isn't now. No future because it isn't now. Not even any now, because now is an infinitesimal.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    What is the sound of one now happening?

    It's kind of like looking up at the night sky full of stars, ennit? When you think about it, What you're looking at happened tens or hundreds or thousands or millions or even billions of years ago. So is that now or not?

    I'd say don't try to analyze everything, Marmalade. Just sit with it.

    Palzang
  • edited February 2010
    there ya go! turnin that ole wheel again! an i'm really happy you're at it! ;)
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Just don't get caught under it! :D

    Palzang
  • edited February 2010
    same ole grind!

    oh, by the way. if i was to do tantric consort practice and the only one i would do that with was Prajnaparamita, would i be a mother f...er?
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    No, you'd be a non-self-f****er!

    Palzang
  • edited February 2010
    sounds kinda non-auto-sexual.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Of course.

    Palzang
  • edited February 2010
    thank you! :D
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Don't mention it. Just send the usual fee.

    Palzang
  • edited February 2010
    okay! nothing and a hug!
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Two hugs. It was a good teaching...

    Palzang
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited February 2010
    What was this thread about? Oh yeah, stars or something. BTW, when those galaxies that are way, way out there, 14 billion light-years out, the ones they just took pictures of at the farthest reach of our telescopes, when those galaxies formed you were already ancient beyond words. How does that grab ya?

    Palzang
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