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Just now realizing I've created bad karma--is it going to catch up to me?

edited February 2010 in Buddhism Basics
A few years ago I created bad karma, but I didn't really realize it at the time. I think I was brainwashed in a sense, to believe that what I was doing was good. It didn't bother me that much at the time, but I think now that I repressed a lot of feelings.

Now it's starting to come out. I can't sleep, and it's giving me a lot of anxiety. This is probably the best time for it to come out, since I don't think I had the ability to handle the anxiety before.

But I wonder if the repercussions are still yet to be seen for this karma. It worries me. I feel like my life has improved in the last few years, and I'm an incredibly lucky person, so I haven't seen my karma come out. Although, I'm trying not to worry (i am a worrier! This is my no.1 problem!).

Can I purge myself of this? Don't I have to go out and create good karma to counteract this? Does anyone have experiences of doing this?

Comments

  • skydancerskydancer Veteran
    edited February 2010
    The only good thing about negative karma is that it can be purified and it is impermanent. Good for you for noticing what's going on in your mind.

    What kind of buddhist meditation do you practice?
  • NiosNios Veteran
    edited February 2010
    leisha,

    I'm sorry to hear of your suffering. We can never know what is our karma, so I wouldn't worry about it. What we do know is that you can change your karma by following the 8fold path. Karma only comes to fuition when conditions are right. If the conditions are never right then that karma will never manifest.

    Life has it's ups and downs, so ride the waves :lol: but don't worry about it, otherwise you create dukkha.

    Be well. :)
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited February 2010
    Intention, I tell you, is kamma. Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect. — AN 6.63
    Now it's starting to come out. I can't sleep, and it's giving me a lot of anxiety. This is probably the best time for it to come out, since I don't think I had the ability to handle the anxiety before.

    But I wonder if the repercussions are still yet to be seen for this karma. But I wonder if the repercussions are still yet to be seen for this karma. It worries me. I feel like my life has improved in the last few years, and I'm an incredibly lucky person, so I haven't seen my karma come out. Although, I'm trying not to worry (i am a worrier! This is my no.1 problem!).

    The "reprecussions" can be seen in your first paragraph in what I quoted above. Learn from your mistakes and let go.
  • edited February 2010
    sky dancer wrote: »
    What kind of buddhist meditation do you practice?



    Right now I practice the kind where I just follow my breath.

    I used to be with a zen group who told me to "just relax and don't think" but the instructions were so zen like that i still don't know if I was doing it right. It did quiet my mind, but I didn't observe my thoughts too much, which I'm told is essential, right?

    I did a lot of meditation before with the "zen" method but now I'm doing a new method (follow breath, observe thought?) and it's really hard to get myself to do it more than once a week due to the extreme anxiety I've had (I've been in fear mode for the last week).

    Also, right now, when I do meditate, I found that the thoughts that come up all all different experiences that make me feel horrible. It's like "oh yeah, I totally forgot about that instance 7 years ago where that person did that horrible thing to me. but now I remember" Is this a good thing? I feel like I'm just bogged down by more and more bad memories.

    Is this normal?
  • edited February 2010
    leisha001 wrote: »
    Can I purge myself of this?

    Hi Leisha,

    Just relax, let the past go, and meditate.:) This is a good series :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd7a9Ur2x0o

    Kind wishes,

    Dazzle

    .
  • edited February 2010
    if something bad happens as a result of what you did, approach it the same way you approach any bad situation. with the 8fold path. knowing that you can do this, you don't need to worry about whether a bad situation will be caused by your previous actions.

    if there is a solution, there is no need to worry about it. if there is no solution, there is no point in worrying about it.

    there is a solution for encountering the potential bad situation. there is no solution to the problem of pre-solving the potential bad situation. so. don't worry!
  • edited February 2010

    if there is a solution, there is no need to worry about it. if there is no solution, there is no point in worrying about it.

    I love what you said. It's like one part of my brain understands it completely, yet another keeps saying "but... but...." It's funny when I think about it.

    I'm constantly forget this simplest advice! But thanks for reminding me.
  • CittaCitta Veteran
    edited February 2010
    leisha001 wrote: »
    A few years ago I created bad karma, but I didn't really realize it at the time. I think I was brainwashed in a sense, to believe that what I was doing was good. It didn't bother me that much at the time, but I think now that I repressed a lot of feelings.

    Now it's starting to come out. I can't sleep, and it's giving me a lot of anxiety. This is probably the best time for it to come out, since I don't think I had the ability to handle the anxiety before.

    But I wonder if the repercussions are still yet to be seen for this karma. It worries me. I feel like my life has improved in the last few years, and I'm an incredibly lucky person, so I haven't seen my karma come out. Although, I'm trying not to worry (i am a worrier! This is my no.1 problem!).

    Can I purge myself of this? Don't I have to go out and create good karma to counteract this? Does anyone have experiences of doing this?

    I can tell you that one of my teachers once said that the anxiety and remorse that we feel as a result of our actions is in part the vipaka. Its not that heaven is lining up a rock to drop onto our heads for naughtiness. We do stuff and it sets up a action and reaction sequence. Learn from it.
  • edited February 2010
    I remember reading about this not too long ago, but I forget where. There are steps for purifying negative karma. You have to feel deep regret, you then have to confess your wrong, then try to make amends by contributing something positive.

    For example, a thief may feel deep regret for stealing, then he would confess his actions, then possibly volunteer for a while to counsel minors who have gotten into trouble for the same thing.

    If you look around I'm sure you can find out more about this. I've heard this a few times over the years.
  • edited February 2010
    I used to work in a government department that made day-to-day decisions causing people quite direct and immediate distress. I doubt the doctrine of karma as it seems generally impossible. However, in my view, if karma is real then it would explain a series of adverse events that happened after I left that job. If you look at any subsequent negative occurrence dispassionately it may help to offset any such effect, if such an effect is real.
  • edited February 2010
    karma is not a supernatural force.
    there are chains of cause and effect that are too long for us to see. buddha, instead of advocating a method of guessing the effects of an action before you do the action, recognized that that would be foolish and instead advocated the method of sticking to certain precepts.
    karma seems like a supernatural force sometimes because it is impossible for us to link some effects with distant causes.
  • edited February 2010
    leisha001 wrote: »
    I love what you said. It's like one part of my brain understands it completely, yet another keeps saying "but... but...." It's funny when I think about it.

    I'm constantly forget this simplest advice! But thanks for reminding me.
    well i just copied it from someone else hehe :)

    but with those seemingly unbeatable worries, the only way to beat them is to sit down and completely analyze the crap out of them so that you KNOW you don't need to worry. not just know that you should know you don't need to worry. some people use the phrase "rest assured." with this matter, i like flipping it around to "assured, rest."
  • edited February 2010
    Yo...


    You can't "escape" your karma ... EVER.
    don't try to...it's useless.
    if that is your intention you will fail and crash+burn...

    Your karma is self generated, like a bullet you shoot at your own head by accident/igorance...

    it's hard ...close to impossible...to escape that bullet...don't pretend..

    but!! one guy at least did it, and he tells us of the method in which he escaped it...

    he told us that this bullet to the head, sucks. (#1 noble truth),

    why it sucks, is because we don't want it..but we think we do initially.. (#2 noble truth)

    he found a way to not shoot ourselves in the head (#3 noble truth)

    and that way or method, of non-suicide is :
    to follow his guide, titled : "the 8 fold non-shooting of the head path"
    (#4 noble truth)

    So perhaps if you are DAMNED lucky..which you aren't probably.:D
    ,
    if you follow the "8 non-shooting of heads path",

    you will ...
    well
    not shoot yourself in the head...

    or at least deflect the bullet you have already launched.

    good luck.:eekblue:
  • CittaCitta Veteran
    edited February 2010
    karma is not a supernatural force.
    there are chains of cause and effect that are too long for us to see. buddha, instead of advocating a method of guessing the effects of an action before you do the action, recognized that that would be foolish and instead advocated the method of sticking to certain precepts.
    karma seems like a supernatural force sometimes because it is impossible for us to link some effects with distant causes.

    It is also impossible to say, "this has happened to me/him/her therefore I/he/she must have done................................" fill in the blank.
    Its not a simple mechanistic process. Remember every encounter we all have with everyone else is likely to carry karmic overtones and associations. We cant figure out all the actions and reactions so lets not try. It starts now, by becoming aware, and being responsible for our actions. We can only conjecture about our past and its effects, but we do know that we are creating our futures.
  • edited February 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Yo...


    You can't "escape" your karma ... EVER.
    don't try to...it's useless.
    if that is your intention you will fail and crash+burn...

    Your karma is self generated, like a bullet you shoot at your own head by accident/igorance...

    it's hard ...close to impossible...to escape that bullet...don't pretend..

    but!! one guy at least did it, and he tells us of the method in which he escaped it...

    he told us that this bullet to the head, sucks. (#1 noble truth),

    why it sucks, is because we don't want it..but we think we do initially.. (#2 noble truth)

    he found a way to not shoot ourselves in the head (#3 noble truth)

    and that way or method, of non-suicide is :
    to follow his guide, titled : "the 8 fold non-shooting of the head path"
    (#4 noble truth)

    So perhaps if you are DAMNED lucky..which you aren't probably.:D
    ,
    if you follow the "8 non-shooting of heads path",

    you will ...
    well
    not shoot yourself in the head...

    or at least deflect the bullet you have already launched.

    good luck.:eekblue:
    hahahahaa thefound, have you been practicing zazen? you have a wild monkey mind. you should try free association writing, let your imagination go crazy.
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