Hmmmm...yes..

TheFound

I was just having a nice long pee, and I was thinking about rebirth and the different realms of rebirth..

I think we are the realms of rebirth..
we experience hell, heaven, animal realms (like sexual lust..when we have it we are experiencing in that realm of existence..)

when they say the human one is the most favorable I dont think they mean what we've got. Human realm is putting your experiencing into...ugh i dunno...being the best ..you know...transforming out constant cycle of rebirth, by refusing to flow in them, with your mind..
this is too weird to explain....i dunno nvm

(see i was just reborn into a realm of confusedness...)

Deshy

... the citta is afflicted by extreme vexation and anxiety, then hell is created in the moment. This is the hell of great heat (mahaparlaha) mentioned by the Buddha in the Samyutta-nikaya. It is also called the “hell where the six contact points belong” (chapassa yatanika niraya). It is real hell and more horrible than the hell under the ground that is believed by people who embrace the concept of a continuing existence. The same sutta refers to the “heaven where the six contact points belong” (chapassa yatanika deva). It is real heaven and more realistic than the heaven in the sky that is believed by people who embrace the concept of a continuing existence. When we suffer and experience terror, we are in the asura realm. When we are starving and breathless, we are in the hungry ghost realm. When we are foolish, we are in the animal realm. When we experience both suffering and pleasure, we are in the human realm. When we enjoy different temperaments and interests, we are in the realms of heavenly gods. When we experience too much pleasure and non-suffering-and-non-pleasure from meditation on the form or formless (rupa-jhana or arupa-jhana), we are in the realms of Brahma. All these are more realistic than the realms in the after-life [physical death] that is believed by people who embrace the concept of a continuing existence. The misunderstandings are caused by a distorted concept of Buddhism’s “spontaneous arising” or “spontaneous origination” ...

By Buddhadasa Bhikkhu

Jeffrey

The realm of confusedness! In teachings I would say that is the animal realm which is the realm of ignorance. When your confused you can't determine whether what you are doing is helpful or harmful to a meaningful degree. I mean animals know how to find dinner and in dog pack behaviour I don't see this corresponding to my experience aka Dogs can see what will benefit them on a limited level. But certainly the higher spiritual truths are unavailable. I don't mean something to mystical. Just that if dogs ruled your household they would eat anything not nailed down until their stomach hurt!

pegembara

A fierce Samurai once went to see a little monk, hoping to acquire the secrets of the universe. "Monk," he said, in a voice accustomed to instant obedience, "teach me about heaven and hell."

The little monk looked up at the mighty warrior in silence. Then, after a moment, he turned away from the Samurai with utter disdain, and said:

"Teach you about heaven and hell? I couldn't teach you about anything. You're dirty. You stink. Your blade is rusty. You're a disgrace, an embarrassment to the Samurai class. Get out of my sight at once. I can't stand you!"

The Samurai was furious. He began to shake all over from the anger that raced through him. A red flush spread over his face; he was speechless with rage. He pulled out his sword and raised it above his head, preparing to slay the monk.

"That's hell," said the little monk quietly.

The Samurai was overwhelmed. Stunned. The compassion and surrender of this little man who had offered his life to give this teaching about hell! He slowly lowered his sword, filled with gratitude, and for reasons he could not explain his heart became suddenly peaceful.

"And that's heaven," said the monk softly.

Deshy

I think those folks who crave for sexual pleasures endlessly also experience the animal realm. There are people who are like dogs in the streets during mating season... :eek:

Stephen

pegembara, that is an utterly beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it.