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Is Fun a part of Sukka?

edited April 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Hi

Can we discuss fun in the Buddhist context.

I can see why Fun would be looked down upon by other religions, but why within Dharma?

Three questions to start with, please answer them before commenting further, Thank you:)

  1. Is fun part of sukka?
  2. Would the Buddha have played Wii?
  3. If he would, would he have favoured Brain Training over Karaoke?


Well wishes, and have fun, life is too short,

;)

Mat

PS I think we can all agree he wouldn't have played Tom Clancy's Rainbox Six on the Wii, as it's utter crap.

Comments

  • edited April 2010
    I don't know. Personally, like happiness, I see fun as something that very few people have genunielly had. The world around us constant says what is fun and what isn't. Our ego's love fun and pleasure and the like. I like to have fun, but I don't have fun out of what most people do, you know? whatever, I guess it has to just do with what you like. And it is always good to smile and laugh
    :)
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited April 2010
    MatSalted wrote: »
    Hi

    Can we discuss fun in the Buddhist context.

    I can see why Fun would be looked down upon by other religions, but why within Dharma?
    I don't know that it is looked down upon... I think it is considered in the same way as any other possible attachment...
    Three questions to start with, please answer them before commenting further, Thank you:)



    Is fun part of sukka?
    I don't know that it is part of sukkha... I would consider it an appendage to sukkha... like the cellophane on a cake... with it but not of it....
    Would the Buddha have played Wii?
    Personally, I think he might have done, if only to laugh at yet something else people believe they MUST have, because it's there....
    If he would, would he have favoured Brain Training over Karaoke?

    I think he would have "treated those two impostors just the same"....


    PS I think we can all agree he wouldn't have played Tom Clancy's Rainbox Six on the Wii, as it's utter crap

    Mat....It's ALL crap.....:D
  • edited April 2010
    I tend to think there is quite a bit of "fun" while practicing our path. Sometimes things are sad, and sometimes painful.....sometimes we are serious. If that is all there were that would be OK, but I tend to view life as a short thing and a gift to be a human. I do not want to waste it on frivolous pursuits. When I am engaged in working or hanging out with friends i like to have fun, and i like to see my friends and people in general be able to drop their dualistic, discursive mind and "lighten up" some. See the wonders of life, smell the flowers, look at the wonder and beauty of nature, hear the sounds that the birds and other creatures are making, smell the fragrances that abound, and taste the interesting pallets while eating. Not to crave these things....to take part in the present moment with these sense enjoyments. Like i said, these are not to be sought after, and certainly lived for exclusively, but there is nothing wrong with contentment, joy, and real ecstasy. :)
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    edited April 2010
    As long as fun doesn't pull you into clinging (feeling anxious to have more fun or sad that you're not having fun for instance) its not really distracting. Every teacher I've had smiles and laughs a lot. The trick is to have fun and have not fun with as much joy as each other.
  • edited April 2010
    MatSalted wrote: »
    Hi

    Can we discuss fun in the Buddhist context.

    of course we can in the Buddhist context

    Is fun part of sukka?
    yes
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I think at some point in the buddhist path perhaps in realizing that you can become enlightened and perhaps in realizing the emptiness of the skandas...

    At that point even your obstacles become 'fun'.
  • edited April 2010
    Is fun part of sukkha?

    Sukkha is part of fun.
  • DeshyDeshy Veteran
    edited April 2010
    :rocker:What is fun?
  • DeshyDeshy Veteran
    edited April 2010
    :coffee:
  • edited April 2010
    Deshy wrote: »
    :rocker:What is fun?

    An experience that one wishes to be prolonged?
    Monkeys seem to have fun.
    And dogs.
    And lammas.
    But not newts, I am guessing.
    Fun some kind of enjoyment.
    It never lasts, it is empty of meaning,
    It is far from dukka.
  • edited April 2010
    i would say fun is joy and excitement. fun cannot be found in sukkha, unless someone enjoys suffering for some reason. however, sukkha can be found in fun because fun goes through the cycle of birth and death.

    EDIT: i just realized i completely confused dukkha and sukkha. hey, they rhyme..
  • edited April 2010
    MatSalted wrote: »

    An experience that one wishes to be prolonged?
    this is craving and this itself is dukka
    Monkeys seem to have fun.
    And dogs.
    And lammas.
    But not newts, I am guessing.

    if (vinnana) consciousness present then there is dukka or sukka

    Fun some kind of enjoyment
    the meaning of fun in english is a sort of enjoyment i suppose
    but in other language fun gives a different meaning
    It never lasts, it is empty of meaning,
    at ultimate sense fun as well as any other word is empty of meaning

    this is how i see
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I make an association between learning and fun if the environment is safe. Some kind of sense delight probably too. But also mental.
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