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life depends on death?

mettafoumettafou Veteran
edited May 2010 in Philosophy
“Friend, who knows if death indeed have life or life have death for goal?”
what is the passage of the buddha that makes sense of this? that life depends on death, or whatever is said to that effect?

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  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    edited May 2010
    That is from Algernon Charles Swinburne's "On The Verge":

    "...
    Though his pilot eye behold
    nor bay nor harbour, rock nor shoal,
    From the shore that hath no shore
    beyond it set in all the sea.

    Friend, who knows if death indeed
    have life or life have death for goal?
    Day nor night can tell us, nor
    may seas declare nor skies unroll
    What has been from everlasting,
    or if aught shall always be.
    Silence answering only strikes
    response reverberate on the soul
    From the shore that hath no shore
    beyond it set in all the sea."

    Buddha's message is usually regarded as:

    "Things that live, die"

    With warmth,

    Matt
  • edited May 2010
    There is no death because there is no birth. There is nothing new, only changed. Life itself is merely the changing of this into that based on conditions, a never-ending stream of causality. Dependent Origination. When we think of life, we normally think of biological life, but if you broaden your mind you understand that the universe itself, and all of the change therein, denotes life as well. Our lives are short, so things that change rapidly for us seem to come "alive", but even the shifting of the worlds is life... happening at a much slower pace. Time seems to stand still, but it isn't; we're just moving very quickly in comparison.

    The universe itself is alive. There is no more beautiful statement, if one understands. :)
  • edited May 2010
    Nothing can die until it fails to try.

    And thus when a spirit (an effort) no longer tries, is when it is dead.

    Life does NOT depend upon death, only of the changing of what was not really alive anyway, that which was not trying, but merely existing.
  • pegembarapegembara Veteran
    edited May 2010
    mettafou wrote: »
    “Friend, who knows if death indeed have life or life have death for goal?”
    what is the passage of the buddha that makes sense of this? that life depends on death, or whatever is said to that effect?

    Birth has death for goal but life just is.
  • mettafoumettafou Veteran
    edited May 2010
    life just is. thanks for clarifying.
  • edited May 2010
    Death is as Divine as Life.
    Hold them in both hands, Kicsi.
    Play with them.
    Balance them.
    This is the Divine Game.

    –a found poem by Istvan Kovacs
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