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SINS!!!!!

edited May 2010 in Buddhism Basics
helo everybody im a Buddhist and i have a very annoying question to be solved from many years, perhaps i ddnt get the correct answer yet.,

the thing is about karma, in my house there are so many mosquitoes and i suppose to kill them whenever they try to bite and drink my blood. i know this looks like a small incident, but just imagine if we kill 10 mosquitoes per day for a week there will be 70 mosquitoes dead by me.

then if we think according to Buddhism 70 lives were taken by me to protect my self. even for our protection if we harm the living beings its considered as a sin in buddhism.(according to my knowledge)

but there is a another side, it means if we allow them to bite us and stay thinking about karma, we will be soon be dead by the infection of dengue or malaria etc.

so anybody can explain me how to get rid of this thing??? :confused:

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  • edited May 2010
    Apply insect repellent ?







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  • Quiet_witnessQuiet_witness Veteran
    edited May 2010
    According to whom, killing is considered a sin in Buddhism? If there is a sin, who punishes us, what is the punishment, and when does it happen?

    I would suggest you consider how it effects you in the here and now when you kill the mosquitos?
  • edited May 2010
    When to kill and to what degree is a question of how devout a person might be (and to what).

    When it comes to mosquitoes, killing them would seem a foolish, futile endeavor (a "sin") simply because you can't really get rid of them that way. Repellents would seem to be the resolve to the situation.

    The real and deep issue is, "For what purpose do I live and do anything that I do?" From that, all ethics/moralities are derived.
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited May 2010
    dudedatroz wrote: »
    helo everybody im a Buddhist and i have a very annoying question to be solved from many years, perhaps i ddnt get the correct answer yet.,

    the thing is about karma, in my house there are so many mosquitoes and i suppose to kill them whenever they try to bite and drink my blood. i know this looks like a small incident, but just imagine if we kill 10 mosquitoes per day for a week there will be 70 mosquitoes dead by me.

    then if we think according to Buddhism 70 lives were taken by me to protect my self. even for our protection if we harm the living beings its considered as a sin in buddhism.(according to my knowledge)

    Killing is considered an unskillful action, not a sin.
    but there is a another side, it means if we allow them to bite us and stay thinking about karma, we will be soon be dead by the infection of dengue or malaria etc.

    so anybody can explain me how to get rid of this thing??? :confused:

    Buddhist morality isn't black and white. Even the Buddha made distinctions between killing a human being and stepping on an ant. It's true that killing is considered an unskillful actions, but that doesn't mean we're not going to be put into a situation where we're going to have to make tough decisions. The most important aspect of any decision, however, is the intention behind it. If our intention is to protect ourselves from harm and disease, that's a lot different than killing out of anger or for fun.

    In your case, I'd suggest bug repellent or a mosquito net. If that doesn't help, then do what you feel you have to do. I myself had to kill a large amount of ants recently because our apartment became infested and they got into our cabinets and refrigerator. I started out by taking them outside and cleaning everything very well with vinegar, but it just got worse and worse.
  • edited May 2010
    "Sin" means an error from the highest intent. It came from the archery word for "missing the mark".
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited May 2010
    Drop wrote: »
    "Sin" means an error from the highest intent. It came from the archery word for "missing the mark".

    In that sense it may be correct to say that killing is a sin, but these days it's rarely used in such a way and generally carries the connotation of transgressing a strict and inflexible moral law (e.g., biblical commandments), which is why I dislike using the term in relation to the five precepts. The precepts themselves are training rules that are voluntarily undertaken rather than edicts or commands dictated by a higher power and/or authority:
    Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
    I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures.

    Adinnadana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
    I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.

    Kamesu micchacara veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
    I undertake the precept to refrain from sexual misconduct.

    Musavada veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
    I undertake the precept to refrain from incorrect speech.

    Suramerayamajja pamadatthana veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
    I undertake the precept to refrain from intoxicating drinks and drugs which lead to carelessness.
  • NomaDBuddhaNomaDBuddha Scalpel wielder :) Bucharest Veteran
    edited May 2010
    dudedatroz wrote: »
    helo everybody im a Buddhist and i have a very annoying question to be solved from many years, perhaps i ddnt get the correct answer yet.,

    the thing is about karma, in my house there are so many mosquitoes and i suppose to kill them whenever they try to bite and drink my blood. i know this looks like a small incident, but just imagine if we kill 10 mosquitoes per day for a week there will be 70 mosquitoes dead by me.

    then if we think according to Buddhism 70 lives were taken by me to protect my self. even for our protection if we harm the living beings its considered as a sin in buddhism.(according to my knowledge)

    but there is a another side, it means if we allow them to bite us and stay thinking about karma, we will be soon be dead by the infection of dengue or malaria etc.

    so anybody can explain me how to get rid of this thing??? :confused:

    I know that a buddhist must respect life in any form it takes, but, when it comes to defending yourself from pests (am I using the right word here?)
    then it is justified. Or, if you were in your house (inside), and you killed some 70 mosquitoes (inside), then you did nothing bad, nor you did a very good thing.
    I mean that you've done a favour for you and your family for not having to suffer from mosquito bites, but you did a bad thing by taking lives.
    For future, you should "repair" this mistake by preventing mosquitoes to enter your home. (Yet again, a Nomad is a nomad, who lacks manners).
  • edited May 2010
    It depends both on you and the tradition you follow. If your tradition places equal karmic weight on the death of a mosquito and a man, then you are encouraged to think one way.

    If your tradition places greater karmic weight on the death of larger and more advanced creatures than on less (I know Theravadin monastic code states this), then you are encouraged to think yet another way.

    Outside of tradition, I would say be mindful and understand what the consequences of your actions may be. The population of mosquitoes vastly outnumbers that of our own, and if you must kill a mosquito to prevent infection and that is your intent, that is natural and is skillful karma, not unskillful. It would be worse to allow a rarer and more complex evolutionary organism such as a human to contract a disease, and so the consequences are weighed.

    If of course you can deter mosquitoes from entering your home, as stated by others above, that is your best course of action and the most skillful (as long as it truly is a deterrent to make them go elsewhere, and not death-by-zapper or other means of harm).

    This is only my opinion; I follow no school, only the Buddha and my own experience.
  • edited May 2010
    helo everybody thank you very much for your kind opinions....

    so from these replies i got to knw that if we kill animals for fun or without a reason (even the animals who harms us but not at that moment) gives us sins and if do that for the protection and also for someones good then there wont be any.

    hmmm but i have another question..ok we are telling with this sins and the good things we are doing the fate will be changed, it means for good karma we are getting good results in life and for bad karma it will give the opposite..it involves in changing the fate of our life.

    ok..so my question is where this karma is stored for each person???how it recognizes the person from one life to another and follow him with good and bad he has done in the early or in the existing life?? how it involves with our activities and how is it possible to change our life to success and failure?

    i knw a person with maximum efforts and courage can override the karma and gain what he wants in his/her life. as an example a beggar can be a rich man by working hard with what he does and with the correct vision. but as the buddhism describes the bad and the good we do someday will repay us.

    any suggestions?
  • edited May 2010
    dudedatroz wrote: »
    any suggestions?
    When you take a medicine for pain, such as aspirin, how does it know where to find the pain that needs relieving?

    The good that brings you good karma is stored, like the medicine, throughout the entire body of Mankind.
  • ValtielValtiel Veteran
    edited May 2010
    ok..so my question is where this karma is stored for each person???

    Up the anus.
    how it involves with our activities and how is it possible to change our life to success and failure?

    Worry about your actions now and how they will affect you in this life, and how they will affect others both while you're here and after you're gone. Stay in school, don't do drugs, etc.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited May 2010
    religions teach non-killing in different ways because generally human beings are ignorant

    for example, when there is a war, young men get all excited and sign up, only return with myriad traumas, mental illnesses & even suicidal

    this is why religions must teach using fear about karma. because human beings are ignorant

    the same with robbing or sex. people get all excited about these things, only to suffer heavily later

    it buddhism, this is called "lambs kicking up their heels (dancing with joy) in front of the slaughterhouse"

    but killing a mosquito you have done. the result you can feel in your mind. the buddha called such results "trifling"

    it is not the kind of result that causes you to see a psychologist or a psychiatrist

    killing mosquitos just makes one look stupid because one is generally scared about nothing (unless one genuinely lives in a malaria or dengue zone)

    in that case...use mosquito repellent

    why? so you can develop some compassion

    apart from that...mosquito killing with not send you to the hell of the psychiatrist's couch or any other hell

    this is natural law...

    :)
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited May 2010
    "widdershins" against the movement of the the sun (heavens), counterclockwise, left handed.



    Never say never. ....A rabid dog is attacking a bunch of school children.
  • pegembarapegembara Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Over here the potentially deadly dengue fever is endemic. Defogging is carried out regularly by the health dept. to keep the population of mosquitoes dowm.
  • edited May 2010
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  • DeshyDeshy Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Up the anus.

    LOLZ


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  • DeshyDeshy Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Does that mean if someone tells you there are no bad kamma in killing then you would go ahead and kill those insects after-all? :p
    dudedatroz wrote: »
    so anybody can explain me how to get rid of this thing??? :confused:

    1) Keep the environment clean
    2) Use mosquito nets
    3) Use insect repellents
    4) Use more covering clothes (sounds silly but it works)
  • edited May 2010
    What you eat (and don't eat) can strongly affect mosquito issues as well (garlic is good) :)
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