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the heart sutra

edited March 2006 in Buddhism Basics
recently i came across the heart sutra (in chinese). by reciting just the phase 'Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha' give me a very peaceful feeling. i am able to focus my mind better do anyone have such experience?

how much have you understand about the 'mind' from this sutra?

The Heart Sutra
Prajna Paramita Hrydaya Sutra

When the Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara.
Was Coursing in the Deep Prajna Paramita.
He Perceived That All Five Skandhas Are Empty.
Thus He Overcame All Ills and Suffering.


"Oh, Sariputra, Form Does not Differ From the Void,
And the Void Does Not Differ From Form.
Form is Void and Void is Form;
The Same is True For Feelings,
Perceptions, Volitions and Consciousness."


"Sariputra, the Characteristics of the
Voidness of All Dharmas
Are Non-Arising, Non-Ceasing, Non-Defiled,
Non-Pure, Non-Increasing, Non-Decreasing."


"Therefore, in the Void There Are No Forms,
No Feelings, Perceptions, Volitions or Consciousness."


"No Eye, Ear, Nose, Tongue, Body or Mind;
No Form, Sound, Smell, Taste, Touch or Mind Object;
No Realm of the Eye,
Until We Come to No realm of Consciousness."


"No ignorance and Also No Ending of Ignorance,
Until We Come to No Old Age and Death and
No Ending of Old Age and Death."


"Also, There is No Truth of Suffering,
Of the Cause of Suffering,
Of the Cessation of Suffering, Nor of the Path."


"There is No Wisdom, and There is No Attainment Whatsoever."


"Because There is Nothing to Be Attained,
The Bodhisattva Relying On Prajna Paramita Has
No Obstruction in His Mind."
[Commentary on above text]

"Because There is No Obstruction, He Has no Fear,"


"And He passes Far Beyond Confused Imagination."


"And Reaches Ultimate Nirvana."


"The Buddhas of the Past, Present and Future,
By Relying on Prajna Paramita
Have Attained Supreme Enlightenment."


"Therefore, the Prajna Paramita is the Great Magic Spell,
The Spell of Illumination, the Supreme Spell,
Which Can Truly Protect One From All Suffering Without Fail."


"Therefore He Uttered the Spell of Prajnaparmita,
Saying Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha."

Comments

  • BrianBrian Detroit, MI Moderator
    edited December 2004
    When I chant, it's always the same: Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambudhassa. I find that after a time, when you stop "thinking" about it, and just let the sounds come out of your mouth while you breathe, that is what helps me to focus.

    Thanks for posting this sutta, Datapoly :)
  • edited July 2005
    "Therefore He Uttered the Spell of Prajnaparmita,
    Saying Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha."

    Every one of my meditation sessions ends with me chanting this 'spell'

    - babies and animals seem to find it centering, as well.
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited July 2005
    There is a very beautiful version of the Sutta recited towards the end of the film Little Buddha.
  • edited July 2005
    I find any sort of chanting or praying to be the addition of something when there should be nothing. If I chant or pray I find that eventually I am merely babbling the words without knowing their meaning...therefore I am not present in the moment or present in what I am doing
    Breathing, heart beating, sitting, dying.
  • edited July 2005
    datapoly wrote:
    by reciting just the phase 'Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha' give me a very peaceful feeling. i am able to focus my mind better do anyone have such experience?

    In Brad Warner's book, "Hardcore Zen", he translates this phrase to roughly mean...

    "Gone, gone, all the way gone to the other shore. Hot damn!"

    That makes me laugh a lot. Be careful of getting too attached to what reciting something makes you feel. The Heart Sutra is conceptually powerful as it points to the non-conceptual as efficiently as anything can in words that I've come across. Repeatedly chanting nearly any phrase will likely give you a more peaceful feeling, especially if you do not understand what the phrase means and are expecting some sort of peaceful result to occur.

    I approach chanting the same way I approach practicing zazen. I just do it without attachment to the results or purpose. Just sitting, just chanting, just bowing, etc...

    Batman, how can one not be present in what they are doing? If that is the case, how are they doing anything to begin with?
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited July 2005
    *Gassho* Sentimental
  • kinleekinlee Veteran
    edited August 2005
    Heart Sutra in English http://www.drba.org/dharma/heartsutra.asp
    Anyone reciting about OM MANI PADME HUM ?
  • edited August 2005
    Sentimentalshark: Ever read a boring book and find you've read a whole page and not retained a bit of it? Listen to a classroom lecture and not pay attention? That is obviously what I meant by not being present in the moment. Perhaps it is more clear if I say one is "not mindful" rather than "not present in the moment".
    It is painful for some to have the mystical de-mystified and magic spells revealed as fairy tales. There is no mystery or magic just as astrology and psychics are mythical.
  • not1not2not1not2 Veteran
    edited March 2006
    datapoly wrote:
    recently i came across the heart sutra (in chinese). by reciting just the phase 'Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha' give me a very peaceful feeling. i am able to focus my mind better do anyone have such experience?

    how much have you understand about the 'mind' from this sutra?

    The Heart Sutra
    Prajna Paramita Hrydaya Sutra

    When the Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara.
    Was Coursing in the Deep Prajna Paramita.
    He Perceived That All Five Skandhas Are Empty.
    Thus He Overcame All Ills and Suffering.


    "Oh, Sariputra, Form Does not Differ From the Void,
    And the Void Does Not Differ From Form.
    Form is Void and Void is Form;
    The Same is True For Feelings,
    Perceptions, Volitions and Consciousness."


    "Sariputra, the Characteristics of the
    Voidness of All Dharmas
    Are Non-Arising, Non-Ceasing, Non-Defiled,
    Non-Pure, Non-Increasing, Non-Decreasing."


    "Therefore, in the Void There Are No Forms,
    No Feelings, Perceptions, Volitions or Consciousness."


    "No Eye, Ear, Nose, Tongue, Body or Mind;
    No Form, Sound, Smell, Taste, Touch or Mind Object;
    No Realm of the Eye,
    Until We Come to No realm of Consciousness."


    "No ignorance and Also No Ending of Ignorance,
    Until We Come to No Old Age and Death and
    No Ending of Old Age and Death."


    "Also, There is No Truth of Suffering,
    Of the Cause of Suffering,
    Of the Cessation of Suffering, Nor of the Path."


    "There is No Wisdom, and There is No Attainment Whatsoever."


    "Because There is Nothing to Be Attained,
    The Bodhisattva Relying On Prajna Paramita Has
    No Obstruction in His Mind."
    [Commentary on above text]

    "Because There is No Obstruction, He Has no Fear,"


    "And He passes Far Beyond Confused Imagination."


    "And Reaches Ultimate Nirvana."


    "The Buddhas of the Past, Present and Future,
    By Relying on Prajna Paramita
    Have Attained Supreme Enlightenment."


    "Therefore, the Prajna Paramita is the Great Magic Spell,
    The Spell of Illumination, the Supreme Spell,
    Which Can Truly Protect One From All Suffering Without Fail."


    "Therefore He Uttered the Spell of Prajnaparmita,
    Saying Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasamgate, Bodhi Svaha."

    "Monks, I will teach you the Dhamma compared to a raft, for the purpose of crossing over, not for the purpose of holding onto. Listen & pay close attention. I will speak."

    "As you say, lord," the monks responded to the Blessed One.

    The Blessed One said: "Suppose a man were traveling along a path. He would see a great expanse of water, with the near shore dubious & risky, the further shore secure & free from risk, but with neither a ferryboat nor a bridge going from this shore to the other. The thought would occur to him, 'Here is this great expanse of water, with the near shore dubious & risky, the further shore secure & free from risk, but with neither a ferryboat nor a bridge going from this shore to the other. What if I were to gather grass, twigs, branches, & leaves and, having bound them together to make a raft, were to cross over to safety on the other shore in dependence on the raft, making an effort with my hands & feet?' Then the man, having gathered grass, twigs, branches, & leaves, having bound them together to make a raft, would cross over to safety on the other shore in dependence on the raft, making an effort with his hands & feet. 7 Having crossed over to the further shore, he might think, 'How useful this raft has been to me! For it was in dependence on this raft that, making an effort with my hands & feet, I have crossed over to safety on the further shore. Why don't I, having hoisted it on my head or carrying on my back, go wherever I like?' What do you think, monks: Would the man, in doing that, be doing what should be done with the raft?"

    "No, lord."

    "And what should the man do in order to be doing what should be done with the raft? There is the case where the man, having crossed over, would think, 'How useful this raft has been to me! For it was in dependence on this raft that, making an effort with my hands & feet, I have crossed over to safety on the further shore. Why don't I, having dragged it on dry land or sinking it in the water, go wherever I like?' In doing this, he would be doing what should be done with the raft. In the same way, monks, I have taught the Dhamma compared to a raft, for the purpose of crossing over, not for the purpose of holding onto. Understanding the Dhamma as taught compared to a raft, you should let go even of Dhammas, to say nothing of non-Dhammas."


    Looks like our friend Avalokiteshvara has discarded his raft. Let's just make sure we don't throw ours away prematurely or falsely.

    That is perhaps my favorite sutra, btw. Thanks for sharing. :)

    _/\_
    metta
  • edited March 2006
    kinlee wrote:
    Anyone reciting about OM MANI PADME HUM ?

    Me! Me! Me!! :)
  • edited March 2006
    Hail to the Jewel in the Lotus - same as the Heart Sutra. :grin:
  • edited March 2006
    Two titles that give important commentaries by Indian and Tibetan sages:

    Heart Sutra Explained and Elaborations on Emptiness both translated by Donald Lopez.
  • edited March 2006
    The so-called "heart sutra" really does convey, for my two cents, the heart of the Buddha's teaching. You have sunnata (sunyata: emptiness) from both ways, pivoting on the word "iha" which introduces the third stanza. The third stanza, the sutra is turning, turning, pivoting from the emptiness of all phenomena to the mind free (empty) from the obstruction of the assumption of phenomena in the fourth stanza and beyond. The mind that is thus free (referring to samma samadhi) has no attainment because it is whole, complete, true. One is not chanting the great spell by repeating the sound of the words but in realizing the essential meaning through meditation. You thoroughly recognize that all phenomena are empty and go about relinquishing them, emptying yourself of the assumption of phenomena, going beyond in the perfection of wisdom.
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