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Im so ****** angry right now..
some people stole a lot of money from me. ALL my money in fact.
All i have left is my mom and she's getting old
I'm thinking, when I lose her, I will go after these people who stole my money.
I will forget Buddhism during this time.. these people have taken everything from me... left me to die..
but before i die for real.. i want to take some of them with me.
I want them to know pain and anger.
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"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." - the Buddha
"He who deserves punishment must be punished, and he who is worthy of favor must be favored. Yet at the same time he teaches to do no injury to any living being but to be full of love and kindness. These injunctions are not contradictory, for whosoever must be punished for the crimes which he has committed, suffers his injury not through the ill-will of the judge but on account of his evildoing. His own acts have brought upon him the injury that the executer of the law inflicts. When a magistrate punishes, let him not harbor hatred in his breast, yet a murderer, when put to death, should consider that this is the fruit of his own act. As soon as he will understand that the punishment will purify his soul, he will no longer lament his fate but rejoice at it." - the Buddha
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Maybe it would be better for you to know peace and wisdom than it would be for them to know pain and anger.
Now, you may feel when people steal from you that they HAVE taken the beautiful moon from you. In other words, they take away your ability to be happy and at peace with life. To be in the moment rather than consumed by poisonous emotions. Well, that's the thing about this life/world. It's up to you to grab the moon again (so to speak). One subject for contemplation the Buddha advised his disciples to take up goes as follows:
This is something that the Buddha wanted those on the path to contemplate, to arrive at. What state of mind/wisdom would it take to be undisturbed by torturers? How far are you from that state? What will it take for you to get there? Of course, in our current, deluded state, the mind horrors at the idea of being okay with someone hacking off your limbs. But the point is not actually to get your limbs hacked off but to rather cut off the negative mental constructs at their root and be free of the shackles of suffering.
So, as difficult as it may be for you to come to terms with the anger arising in you right now, that is really what you should be focusing on if you want something out of this practice. So what do you want out of this practice?
TheFound,
It seems more likely you have forgotten Buddhism already, if it was ever known in the first place. You also seem quite melodramatic, you should consider some therapy or getting started on a sitting meditation practice with a respectable teacher.
I'm sorry for your loss,
Matt
We make stories of being wronged.
We make stories of being praised.
We make stories of being Buddhists.
We can make just about any kind of stories, so the question arises as to what kind of stories are worthwhile.
a lot of money being stolen can be frustrating.
but come now man! you know the laws. both manmade and spiritual. violence only begets more violence, and violence in the heart only brings about ruin and pain, revenge can only be sweet for a short time before it turns into a bitter poison.
today i got angry at several people, but i just meditated immediately after and remembered my vows, and that getting angry wasnt worthwhile at all and i was immensely calmed down.
please T F , do the same and remember your heart, don't forsake yourself , because when you forsake yourself you forsake all of us and cause nothing but harm
love is the ultimate happiness.
anger is just death.
Let the law deal with the problem and move on. If you can truly let it go, all this will eventually just be like a bad dream and cannot touch you.
No one can truly hurt you. Only you can.
Slow down man ! Take a deep breath ! You are still alive !
First think about how will you get up from the ground.
Plan the revenge later.
You have been given the opportunity to see a great truth ...
Look at yourself and how you are feeling.
This is the suffering the Buddha taught about.
This is the suffering that arises from attachment and from aversion, from anger and from wanting revenge.
Is this really what you want out for yourself from your life?
The biggest problem with revenge (compassion aside, karma aside) ... is that it perpetuates your anger, it perpetuates your suffering.
Actually the last time I checked Buddhism is because of suffering caused by attachment. My friend, Buddhism is EXACTLY what you need RIGHT NOW.
Your money is gone, their time will come.
As for you, don't let your negative emotions consume you and allow you to make regretful decisions.
The philosophical debate we can leave for later, but for now, let's be smart.
Peace.
About revenge...about the tought of revenge...I said that The Found should first find a way to get up. In the process of finding a way and getting off the ground , he will forget about revenge.
Well said!
Or incites someone else to steal it,
To dedicate to this person your body, possessions,
and all your virtue of the three times
Is the practice of a Bodhisattva.
From The 37 Practices of a Bodhisattva
Don't mean to suggest I lack sympathy for your problem, if there's anything I can do to help, please let me know here.
I've been doing loving-kindness meditation lately, and I always always make sure to include my ex boyfriend. He hurt me a lot. Not that he did anything wrong, but the pain just brought me to feel anger towards him. So I started wishing him well. It's taking its time, but I know someday I will automatically wish him well, instead of having to cultivate it. Perhaps you can use this technique with the thieves?
And one last thing to consider is how this anger effects you. It causes you to suffer. That is all. Doesn't hurt the ones that hurt you. Be kind to yourself. You've done nothing wrong. Relax. Be as kind to yourself as you can. You deserve it.
I hope you regain balance soon. Best wishes.
You must be true to your heart. And I don't think that is vengeance deep down.
In any case I would advise being on the side of the law.
We can get so caught up in BS. Particularly he and she BS.
How exactly did they steal it? Why were you friends with these sorts of people? How do you know who stole it?
That is brilliant FoibleFull
If only we could remember the wisdom we're giving when WE are the ones angry.
The Buddha
I really wonder if he even reads his responses.
do you even know who these people are?
what does that even mean?
seriously contact the cops and get back your money.
It means that an angry mind is punishment in itself. It also means acting with an angry mind brings about worse circumstances.
ok I think I got what you mean. Anger is bad for health and it affects the people around us.
But as Shutoku said - when we feel this way that is EXACTLY when we need the Dhamma and the Middle Way. It's not just for when things are all peachy. I know from my own experience lately that I have neglected my practise and have paid for it :hrm:
Respectfully,
Raven
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