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Some questions respecting Buddhist ethics.

edited June 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Is the underlying principle behind all Buddhist precepts non-harm?

Are Buddhist ethics liberal and progressive?

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  • edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    Is the underlying principle behind all Buddhist precepts non-harm?
    Yes; with the extension that less harm is preferable to greater harm, etc.
    Are Buddhist ethics liberal and progressive?
    That all depends on your definitions of liberal and progressive. Personally, I would call Buddhist ethics the ultimate pragmatic code, but that's a personal viewpoint.
  • thickpaperthickpaper Veteran
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    Is the underlying principle behind all Buddhist precepts non-harm?

    Not just non-harm but non greed and non deception; so the 3 poisons.

    Or in a more positive vein, promoting the opposites of the defilements: peace, truth and kindness:)

    namaste
  • edited June 2010
    thickpaper wrote: »
    Not just non-harm but non greed and non deception; so the 3 poisons.

    Or in a more positive vein, promoting the opposites of the defilements: peace, truth and kindness:)

    namaste

    I though the three poisons were anger , hate and delusion.

    I thought deception and greed were causes of harm; thats why I ask if non-harm is the underlying principle.
  • edited June 2010
    Yes. Non-harm is the underlying principle.

    Please define "liberal" and "progressive" for the sake of this discussion.

    In Mahayana, the three poisons are ignorance, attachment, and craving.
  • edited June 2010
    Yes. Non-harm is the underlying principle.

    Please define "liberal" and "progressive" for the sake of this discussion.

    In Mahayana, the three poisons are ignorance, attachment, and craving.

    To be honest I am not sure, and I think they probably can mean different things. But I was reading in a book that one of the appeals of Buddhism is that there is a perception that Buddhist ethics are liberal and progressive.

    Perhaps by liberal they mean a more tolerant attitude to things? I don't know.

    Do Mahayana have different three poisons to other sects of Buddhism?
  • thickpaperthickpaper Veteran
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    I though the three poisons were anger , hate and delusion.

    Greed(unkindess), hate(aversion) and delusion(deception) are the three defilements, at least as I know them:)
  • edited June 2010
    "To be honest I am not sure, and I think they probably can mean different things."

    In order to be able to answer questions, we need to be able to understand the questions.

    If you do a Google search for "three poisons wikipedia", you should find an article that explains the various negative influences in the different traditions.
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Greed, Hatred and Delusion are really easy to spot, they are the flow and contour of every single waking moment.
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Glow wrote: »
    * AFAIK, the designation of hatred, greed and ignorance as the three main mental poisons comes from later commentaries, particularly the Vissudhimagga. They are not identified as such in the Sutta Nikaya, to my knowledge..
    Does knowing this distinction have any influence on your practice?
    Glow wrote: »
    In the Abhidhamma, there are actually ten such defilements.
    Do you feel that discerning ten (subsets of?) defilements is more effective in practice than three? Or is the distinction more a scholarly concern. Thanks
  • GlowGlow Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Richard H wrote: »
    Does knowing this distinction have any influence on your practice?

    Do you feel that discerning ten (subsets of?) defilements is more effective in practice than three? Or is the distinction more a scholarly concern. Thanks
    Well, IME, it helps to keep in mind that the concept of the kilesas is more a general metaphor for patterns that lead to unskillful behavior, rather than zeroing in on hatred, greed and ignorance specifically, if that's what you're asking?
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Glow wrote: »
    Well, IME, it helps to keep in mind that the concept of the kilesas is more a general metaphor for patterns that lead to unskillful behavior, rather than zeroing in on hatred, greed and ignorance specifically, if that's what you're asking?
    Yes. Thank you.
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