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Maitreya?

Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
edited August 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Is Maitreya the future Buddha and will be born when all Buddhism is lost? If that's correct would it be if there are simply no practitioners of Buddhism or because Buddhism not only has no practitioners but has been lost from historical documents? Either way I'm sure we'd all be long, long dead by then. If the human species is alive at all...

All the best,
Nickidoodle Jellybean

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  • NomaDBuddhaNomaDBuddha Scalpel wielder :) Bucharest Veteran
    edited August 2010
    LoveNPeace wrote: »
    Is Maitreya the future Buddha and will be born when all Buddhism is lost? If that's correct would it be if there are simply no practitioners of Buddhism or because Buddhism not only has no practitioners but has been lost from historical documents? Either way I'm sure we'd all be long, long dead by then. If the human species is alive at all...

    All the best,
    Nickidoodle Jellybean

    Or we will have reincarnated 100 times :lol::lol:. Maitreya will appear when the time will be right for his appearance, and that means that he could appear in this second or over a thousand years. Anyways, I guess that this Maitreya is just a metaphor which symbolizes the immortality of Dharma.
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Thanks :)
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    LoveNPeace wrote: »
    Is Maitreya the future Buddha and will be born when all Buddhism is lost? If that's correct would it be if there are simply no practitioners of Buddhism or because Buddhism not only has no practitioners but has been lost from historical documents? Either way I'm sure we'd all be long, long dead by then. If the human species is alive at all...

    All the best,
    Nickidoodle Jellybean


    When Maitreya appears friend all traces of Shakyamunis teachings will have vanished from the face of the earth, Not even his name will be known.
  • nanadhajananadhaja Veteran
    edited August 2010
    I'm with you.
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    I think this is the first Buddhist related thread I've started :lol:
  • edited August 2010
    Hmm - this thread's a mindmesserupper!

    If (when could still be argued) the human race does die out in some appropriately silly and selfish means, what would happen to the teachings? Taking the premise of rebirth as fact (I'm still not sold on that one), this would imply we all would be stuck in some alternate form - such as a protozoan blob somewhere. Would Maitreya have to learn to communicate compassionately with chemical signals to us goopy beings? :lol:
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Yeah! :D
    I'm sceptical about rebirth but my minds open to it. As you'll see by my signature one life leads to another :D
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Gecko wrote: »
    Hmm - this thread's a mindmesserupper!

    If (when could still be argued) the human race does die out in some appropriately silly and selfish means, what would happen to the teachings? Taking the premise of rebirth as fact (I'm still not sold on that one), this would imply we all would be stuck in some alternate form - such as a protozoan blob somewhere. Would Maitreya have to learn to communicate compassionately with chemical signals to us goopy beings? :lol:
    Buddha have Omniscient wisdom, according to the prediction mankind will go through great periods of travesties where life span will gradually decrease and then once again increase...Buddha's would predict their own appearance if there where going to be no human beings to give the Dharma to, So on this logic i expect the human race will survive. :)
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Why can't some other species receive it? Some species of animals might have evolved as intelligent as people 2500-2600 year ago by the time we die out... :lol:
    buddha_pig_mousepad-p144795740747161614td22_210.jpg
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    LoveNPeace wrote: »
    Why can't some other species receive it? Some species of animals might have evolved as intelligent as people 2500-2600 year ago by the time we die out... :lol:
    buddha_pig_mousepad-p144795740747161614td22_210.jpg

    Humans are difficult to exterminate :)
    Even Steven Hawking is now saying we need to start colonising space, When in built survival Habits take over we will certainly find away to keep the species alive.
    I doubt many animals would have the apptitude or need to evolve anymore then they are. :)
  • edited August 2010
    One mention of the prophecy of Maitreya is in the Sanskrit text, the Maitreyavyākaraṇa (The Prophecy of Maitreya). It implies that he is a teacher of meditative trance sadhana and states that gods, men, and other beings:
    <dl><dd>"will lose their doubts, and the torrents of their cravings will be cut off: free from all misery they will manage to cross the ocean of becoming; and, as a result of Maitreya's teachings, they will lead a holy life. No longer will they regard anything as their own, they will have no possession, no gold or silver, no home, no relatives! But they will lead the holy life of chastity under Maitreya's guidance. They will have torn the net of the passions, they will manage to enter into trances, and theirs will be an abundance of joy and happiness, for they will lead a holy life under Maitreya's guidance." (Trans. in Conze 1959:241)</dd></dl>found wikipedia.....
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    caz namyaw wrote: »
    Humans are difficult to exterminate :)
    Even Steven Hawking is now saying we need to start colonising space, When in built survival Habits take over we will certainly find away to keep the species alive.
    I doubt many animals would have the apptitude or need to evolve anymore then they are. :)

    Our planet is plunged into ice ages and the sun expands ever nearer all the time, we're building houses every where, cutting down trees, stopping rivers, draining lakes, polluting the air and ocean. Yellowstone National Park's super volcano could go off at any minute and a meteor could be heading for our planet as we speak. Animals'll always need to evolve :D With any luck an ice age will start when the sun gets too near, a meteor will plug the super volcano, we'll have drained lots of water when all the ice melts and we'll get to our limit of oxygen before more houses are built :lol: There's always hope ;) Anyway, I think the animals that'll do well are animals that adapt. Humans, foxes, pigeons, crows, rats, cockroaches and animals that humans find attractive, helpful or both. Colonisation of the stars is the next step though... To think we would be the evil resources-guzzling super aliens to other less developed but intelligent planets :o :crazy:
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    buddhawithkids.jpg

    I can see why Buddha left his kid(s :p)
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    dennis60 wrote: »
    One mention of the prophecy of Maitreya is in the Sanskrit text, the Maitreyavyākaraṇa (The Prophecy of Maitreya). It implies that he is a teacher of meditative trance sadhana and states that gods, men, and other beings:


    <DL><DD>"will lose their doubts, and the torrents of their cravings will be cut off: free from all misery they will manage to cross the ocean of becoming; and, as a result of Maitreya's teachings, they will lead a holy life. No longer will they regard anything as their own, they will have no possession, no gold or silver, no home, no relatives! But they will lead the holy life of chastity under Maitreya's guidance. They will have torn the net of the passions, they will manage to enter into trances, and theirs will be an abundance of joy and happiness, for they will lead a holy life under Maitreya's guidance." (Trans. in Conze 1959:241)</DD></DL>found wikipedia.....

    Don't like the sound of that... relatives are important, and chastity isn't natural (sorry monks).
    whitetail-deer-bizare-sex.jpg
    Sorry about that... I'm obsessed with pictures today :o
  • edited August 2010
    Yea, i think it is a bit far fetched myself. But this is a religious view, and symbolic of prophesy of a future time. It exists in all religions , you know Jesus returning to earth to claim the 100,000 true believers. If one is religious in their practice of Buddhism, then these future stories are important. If you are practicing Buddhism to understand your own true nature, then these stories become a bit comical.
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Yeah... I'm practising Buddhist to be at peace with myself and the world. I think it's working :)
  • edited August 2010
    I dunno - that pic looks a little tantric :lol:

    Interestingly enough, from my random overheard buddhist discussions, I remember someone saying that the next Buddha (or the one after), would communicate with only smells, or something, as this will be the best way to communicate the dharma to the current 'form' of humans.

    It seems rather dubious that the Buddhist teachings would completely vanish before the next Buddha clocks in for his shift. If the teachings are, after all, essentially just expounded explanations of the nature of reality, then someone(thing) is always going to be closer to the 'truth' - even if it's not memorised from a verbal teaching or etched into a bit of moldy bark.

    I've always felt that there was something more to just being alive and working till death, ever since I was little, and when I first read about the precepts, it just clicked that here was what I'd been trying to live. If someone as monkey-minded and ignorant as myself has that feeling - surely there will always be a being out there whom will keep the status quo somewhat afloat :rolleyes:
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Smell? I want to see the future humans :D Or as they'd say...
    Sniff? S sniff sn snuff snuff snifflesnuff snufflesniff... :lol:
    The Five Precepts
    Do Not Sniff Bad Sniffs
    Do Not Be Attached To The Sniff
    Do Not Let The Sniff Control You
    Do Not Be Deluded By The Sniff
    Sniff Correctly To Reach Sniffarna :p
  • edited August 2010
    Or we will have reincarnated 100 times :lol::lol:. Maitreya will appear when the time will be right for his appearance, and that means that he could appear in this second or over a thousand years. Anyways, I guess that this Maitreya is just a metaphor which symbolizes the immortality of Dharma.

    A Buddha cannot appear while the teachings of another Buddha are extant, because they would already know about them. They would be an arahant, perhaps, but not a Buddha, because a Buddha makes it on their own, without having access to the Dhamma except through their own insight.
  • mugzymugzy Veteran
    edited August 2010
    LoveNPeace wrote: »
    Sniff? S sniff sn snuff snuff snifflesnuff snufflesniff... :lol:
    The Five Precepts
    Do Not Sniff Bad Sniffs
    Do Not Be Attached To The Sniff
    Do Not Let The Sniff Control You
    Do Not Be Deluded By The Sniff
    Sniff Correctly To Reach Sniffarna :p

    LoL!!! I know this is getting a little silly, but speaking of smells... :ot:
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Hey, this is my thread, if I like it, it's not off topic :D My youtube's a bit dodgy so I'll say if I like the video when my youtube's loaded...
  • edited August 2010
    :ot: : O_o I don't snuffle snifflenese :(

    On topic: Hindmost; that seems to me that I can conclude that a future Buddha is merely a wiser individual whom had the unfortunate burden of coming up with an entire teaching system all over again. It would also imply that there are likely a few Buddhas running around already, but don't have to work so hard yet!

    In which case, assuming there will be an amount of arahant-level people (whee, I'm a level 35 Buddhist! :lol:), and at the very least a number of lesser-advanced people who carry around the slightest hint of the current Buddha teachings (version 3.0); aside from a cataclysmic event or radical brain-wiping of everyone, how would all the teachings be lost?

    I'm interested - what's the story about past ages were the teachings were 'lost'? (How can you lose something that's inherent in existence anyway?)
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Sni snont snuffersniff :confused:
  • Love-N-PeaceLove-N-Peace Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Sni snaw sn snideo, sna snoono sniffaw, snellsnuf Mugzy :thumbsup:
  • edited August 2010
    The teachings can be buried under bullshit until no one knows their significance any more. The earth always revolved around the sun, but we didn't know for a long time.
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