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Increasing self confidence

skullchinskullchin Veteran
edited September 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Is there a Buddhist way to do this?

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  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Yes. Learn to meditate when you're feeling bad about yourself.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited August 2010
    There are two types of confidence. Unconditional which is the buddha nature, and conditional. The conditional type collapses when the conditions needed to sustain it are not there. Therapy, yoga, tai-chi and many other things can help you with conditional confidence.

    When conditional confidence fails it is an opportunity to remember or link into your unconditional. Which is opening to the situation. Without shying away from it. Its always there but what goes wrong is that we forget we have it. That is known as avidya or avoidance. Thats what is meant in buddhism by 'ignorance' in part. As it is an attachment to a wrong way of looking at things fundamentally.
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    I myself have issues with confidence and still have a slight touch of social anxiety. From my understanding I think if we had a firm understanding of dependent origination and non-self, it would help with this problem a great deal. The thing is, it is a concept that alludes me still to this day. Lacking in confidence is worrying about what people may think of you in a certain situation, if you can learn to drop this notion of self I am sure it will be of great help indeed, it's just doing it that I find difficult lol
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited August 2010
    I feel like I'm two people at the moment...!
    Beset on one side with day-to-day worries, egocentric personal concerns, dilemmas and heartbreaking situations demanding hard decisions....
    On the other side I have my equanimous self relaxing, letting go, seeing everything as illusory and impermanent, smiling inwardly and shaking my oh-so-wise head at the utter foolishness of my clinging and grasping....
    It's like watching an arm-wrestling contest I tell you.....:D
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Sorry to hear that you're having a tough time, fede. I hope you find a way to experience the worries and heartbreak peacefully.
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    lol, I feel a little like that too federica, only the egocentric worrier has a far bigger and muscular arm than that of the wise man and there is a constant 'rematch' called after each hand is slammed to the table. Maybe not as close of a wrestle as yours may be :P You do sound as if you have some troubled times, I am sure you are able to deal with it and get over it soon enough though :)

    I have worked out that the main cause of my personal suffering is this low confidence and social anxiety. Before I had social anxiety I suffered from the disorder where you think you are always ill or dying. It seems pathetic and silly but I did genuinely think I had cancers and god knows what else. It caused me a great deal of pain and stress and near suicide at one point.
    I suffered from that for maybe 6 years until it randomly left, I was free from it. Then soon enough it manifested itself into social anxiety and still today I have it to some degree. If I can free myself from this I will be a great deal happier I am sure of it. It is why I am so intent on grasping a solid understanding on non self and dependent origination.
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited August 2010
    Hi, Tom. Have you tried metta meditation? It's a classic prescription for anxiety.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited August 2010
    fivebells wrote: »
    Sorry to hear that you're having a tough time, fede. I hope you find a way to experience the worries and heartbreak peacefully.

    Well thank you fivebells... I guess a problem shared.... :)
    lol, I feel a little like that too federica, only the egocentric worrier has a far bigger and muscular arm than that of the wise man and there is a constant 'rematch' called after each hand is slammed to the table. Maybe not as close of a wrestle as yours may be :P You do sound as if you have some troubled times, I am sure you are able to deal with it and get over it soon enough though :)
    I don't actually think (although I thank you for your kind and considerate good wish) that it's a question ever of 'getting over it'. I think sometimes it's a question of seeing things as they are, because things are as they are, and that's just the way they are. It's a hard truth to realise, but frankly, it's a truth we MUST realise - because there's no getting round it.
    I have worked out that the main cause of my personal suffering is this low confidence and social anxiety. Before I had social anxiety I suffered from the disorder where you think you are always ill or dying. It seems pathetic and silly but I did genuinely think I had cancers and god knows what else. It caused me a great deal of pain and stress and near suicide at one point.
    I suffered from that for maybe 6 years until it randomly left, I was free from it. Then soon enough it manifested itself into social anxiety and still today I have it to some degree. If I can free myself from this I will be a great deal happier I am sure of it. It is why I am so intent on grasping a solid understanding on non self and dependent origination.

    Don't grasp too hard. Relax a little. What I might suggest is not to see how far you have yet to travel, but to look behind you and see just how wonderfully far you have progressed. The key is acceptance, I think. Accepting yourself as you are, here, now, today. "This is who I am, and that's ok. I wasn't like this yesterday, and I won't be like this tomorrow, so today is today, and I am okay!"
    Don't berate or criticise yourself. Goodness knows Life has enough 'sticks 'n' stones' to fling at us, without us beating ourselves over the head, too!! :lol:
    fivebells wrote: »
    Hi, Tom. Have you tried metta meditation? It's a classic prescription for anxiety.

    And a good one, at that.
    My home is quiet, because my partner is currently away. It's the ideal opportunity to quietly reflect and ponder things with no distraction.
    Nice also, to talk to empathetic and like-minded individuals who can see factors at all levels, not just an emotively-fuelled one.....

    Many thanks.
    Great apologies for any perceived thread-jacking. I hope it isn't so, but it feels good to expand and discuss......
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    I have never tried metta meditation, I don't think lol. I have sometimes thought about positive and good things for certain people after a few minutes of focusing on breathing, even to people who have come to hurt me. But yea, meditation is a bit of pretty non existent at the moment, I really should just sit down and let go of everything for a few minutes but I haven't been able to recently, pretty weak I know.

    I understand what you mean federica, and maybe I used the wrong words there lol. I often use the wrong words, I really should read back everything I write before I post it. I meant I hope this situation comes to pass soon. There is very little we can do to change the way life is and to fight it just makes it worse I guess, but yes sorry wrong wording :/

    It is annoying though having social anxiety because you just wish for a day where you could be happy with yourself and be surrounded by people and totally at peace with everything, rather than worrying yourself to death. I never had this social anxiety until about 2-3 years ago, like I said it was manifested in a different problem.
    Thank you for your words though, they are always helpful and I am sure the original poster has some things to go by also :)
  • TreeLuvr87TreeLuvr87 Veteran
    edited August 2010
    For me, following the Eightfold Path naturally has been building more self-esteem and confidence. And I'm definitely excited to be learning more about the unconditional self-love within me that Jeffrey's talking about.
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    SO how does one go about metta meditation if I may ask..? I listened to ajahn brahm once, maybe the very first talk I had listened to and he spoke of spending time with oneself. If you spend time observing your mind, no tv or any distractions for long periods of time, you get to know yourself better and realise you are in fact a good person, in turn comingto find love for yourself.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited August 2010
    Have a look at this link for some pointers....

    Permit me also to share the following with you. Turn up your speakers. It takes about ten minutes and is blissful. I have posted this before but repetition is a worthy habit.....
  • edited August 2010
    SO how does one go about metta meditation if I may ask..?

    I downloaded an mp3 guided meditation on this from wildmind.

    I think it's only a buck or two if you are interested it trying it out.

    The gist of it is to sit and quiet the mind a bit and then repeat (out loud or silently in your head) the phrases "May I be happy. May I be well. May I be free from suffering". This is done for whatever amount of time you wish (a few minutes is probably good to start with) and then it changes to bringing to mind someone you have positive feelings for and repeating the phrases to them. Then someone you are neutral about, then someone you don't like or someone you have recently had 'unskillful' feelings/thoughts about and then finally the entire world of beings collectively.

    The important part is to connect with the words themselves as you speak them to yourself and others. It is a pretty neat experience because you don't need to feel any love or warmth toward yourself or the others you speak these words to when you begin. Simply by bringing the person to mind and focusing on the meaning of the words metta develops naturally.

    There is a very high probability that you will 'feel the power' even the first time you do it provided you concentrate on the meaning of the phrases you recite rather than just speak them mindlessly.
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited August 2010
    There are many types of metta meditation. The one I learned is described in the last 30 minutes or so of this podcast (part of this series.)

    The simplest version is simply to open your heart to things. Start with people you like, then people you're indifferent to, then people you dislike. Then do it for objects. Then do it for experiences. When you can open your heart to the experience of anxiety, and rest, things change.
  • GlowGlow Veteran
    edited August 2010
    The word "confidence" means in Latin "with faith/trust." What do we put our faith in? Most of the time, we try to galvanize ourselves from harm by trying to accumulate faith that our efforts will be successful (or, at least, that they won't fail). We do this in many ways. We might look to our friends, family or authority figures for confirmation that we are able and likely to succeed. We might try to learn as much as we can about a situation in order to prepare ourselves for possible pitfalls or make use of whatever tactical advantages we can. We might try to immunize ourselves with affirmations or positive visualizations or the like. Or, failing that, we might just simply try to avoid the situation if is seems like our prospects for success are bleak. This is conventional confidence.

    The Buddha's definition of confidence is a different kind of faith. First, it is faith in the fact that we are bigger than our successes or failures; that they do not define us and that success and failure are simply transient fluctuations of an existence in which everything is dependent on everything else. We will fail sometimes, we will succeed sometimes. That is the way the world is. This is the wisdom behind teachings like not-self and dependent origination. There is a lovely exposition by Thich Nhat Hanh on interdependence:
    If you are a poet, you will see clearly that there is a cloud floating in this sheet of paper. Without a cloud, there will be no rain; without rain, the trees cannot grow; and without trees, we cannot make paper. The cloud is essential for the paper to exist. If the cloud is not here, the sheet of paper cannot be here either... If we look into this sheet of paper even more deeply, we can see the sunshine in it. Without sunshine, the forest cannot grow. In fact, nothing can grow without sunshine. And so, we know that the sunshine is also in this sheet of paper. The paper and the sunshine inter-are. And if we continue to look, we can see the logger who cut the tree and brought it to the mill to be transformed into paper. And we see wheat. We know that the logger cannot exist without his daily bread, and therefore the wheat that became his bread is also in this sheet of paper. The logger’s father and mother are in it too. When we look in this way, we see that without all of these things, this sheet of paper cannot exist. Looking even more deeply, we can see ourselves in this sheet of paper too. This is not difficult to see because when we look at a sheet of paper, it is part of our perception. Your mind is here and mine is also. So we can say that everything is in here with this sheet of paper. We cannot point out one thing that is not here–time, space, the earth, the rain, the minerals in the soil, the sunshine, the cloud, the river, the heat. Everything co-exists within this sheet of paper.

    Source: Peace is Every Step
    Second, Buddhist confidence is faith in our ability to have love and compassion for ourselves, whether we are failing or succeeding. We go easier on ourselves. We don't ignore the reality of our pain but we don't exacerbate it either. As fivebells mentioned, metta meditation is a wonderful means of cultivating this valuable ability. From Sharon Salzberg:
    The unrelenting flux of life's changing conditions is inevitable, yet we labor to hold on to pleasure, and we labor equally hard to avoid pain. So many images from our world tell us that it is wrong to suffer; advertising, social mores, and cultural assumptions suggest that feeling pain or sadness is blameworthy, shameful, humiliating. Underlying these messages is an expectation that somehow we should be able to control pain or loss. When we experience mental or physical pain, we often feel a sense of isolation, a disconnection from humanity and life. Our shame sets us apart in our suffering at the very times when we need most to connect...

    Our vision becomes very narrow when we need things to be a certain way and cannot accept things the way they actu*ally are. Denial functions almost as a kind of narcotic, so that vital parts of our lives end up missing.

    When we practice metta, we open continuously to the truth of our actual experience, changing our relationship to life. Metta—the sense of love that is not bound to desire, that does not have to pretend that things are other than the way they are—overcomes the illusion of separateness, of not being part of a whole. Thereby metta overcomes all of the states that accompany this fundamental error of separateness—fear, alienation, loneliness, and despair—all of the feelings of frag*mentation. In place of these, the genuine realization of con*nectedness brings unification, confidence, and safety.

    Source: Lovingkindness: The Revolutionary Art of Happiness
  • MountainsMountains Veteran
    edited August 2010
    fivebells wrote: »
    Yes. Learn to meditate when you're feeling bad about yourself.

    I sure hope that's going to help get me through physiology then! Yikes. I feel like the mountain has come down on me after two days of class...

    :)

    Mtns
  • edited August 2010
    one of the main thing i have to work on is self confidence. when i was younger my best friend did nothing but make fun of people including my self ( i know right what a friend lol) needless to say it did a number on me and im slowly but surely getting over it>
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited August 2010
    A good friend of mine always ripped the piss out of me and other friends too. He is just known for being cocky and to always make fun. Sometimes it does get to you but I haven't seen this guy for over a year now.. I actually got into 2 proper fights with him lol, oops
  • TreeLuvr87TreeLuvr87 Veteran
    edited September 2010
    Something that has been helping me a lot lately is reflection on interbeing. Reflecting on the Buddha Nature within my body. This same nature makes up all things around, things that I love.
  • edited September 2010
    Dogen says something that makes me tear up mostly everytime. "I have seen the mirror and its free of dust". What a beautiful thing .This is the exact opposite of original sin. It is original non-sin!
  • GuyCGuyC Veteran
    edited September 2010
    The Wise Ones desist from arm wrestling.
  • GuyCGuyC Veteran
    edited September 2010
    federica wrote: »
    Don't grasp too hard. Relax a little. What I might suggest is not to see how far you have yet to travel, but to look behind you and see just how wonderfully far you have progressed. The key is acceptance, I think. Accepting yourself as you are, here, now, today. "This is who I am, and that's ok. I wasn't like this yesterday, and I won't be like this tomorrow, so today is today, and I am okay!"
    Don't berate or criticise yourself. Goodness knows Life has enough 'sticks 'n' stones' to fling at us, without us beating ourselves over the head, too!! :lol:

    Beautifully said.
  • Just wanted to give an update on this, I've found that if I meditate on the phrase, "I'm okay" both formally and in situations where I feel threatened I am able to act much more confident and give attention to whoever it is that I perceive as a threat at the time.

    I chose the phrase "I'm okay" because it serves as a reminder that there is nothing wrong with me and I have nothing to defend. I'm also starting to notice the situations I am using it most. But more on that later.
  • Okay, another update on this!

    The work of Kristen Neff has been helpful to me in this regard. She is a (Buddhist?) researcher on Self-Compassion. Basically her research indicates that self-confidence/self-esteem aren't useful constructs. Research shows that high self-esteem is beneficial to have but there are many drawbacks to the approach of increasing self-esteem.

    A much more useful practice is that of self-compassion. She offers a self-compassion meditation on her website that is very similar to loving-kindness meditation.

    http://www.self-compassion.org/
  • Thanks for the update skullchin.
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