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Why few Black Buddhists?

edited October 2005 in Buddhism Basics
I know a Tina Turner is a Buddhist (http://www.purifymind.com/TinaTurner.htm) a popular Black celebrity Buddhist. I saw two Black Buddhists monk on TV while watching some International Chinese channel. On the latest issue of Tricycle magazine, there's a Black guy I think in the background riding a rollercoaster http://www.tricycle.com/issues/tricycle/

There's also a theory (unproven and merely speculation) that Buddha was of Negroid origin by research and work done by a scholar named Godfrey Higgins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_Higgins).

buddas3.jpg
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/india.html

Nevertheless, do you think the African-African community in America would have more great Black leaders today? That there would be less steroptyical violence statistics stigma from Blacks and are known as the most non-violence and peaceful group in America?

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  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited October 2005
    I know a Tina Turner is a Buddhist (http://www.purifymind.com/TinaTurner.htm) a popular Black celebrity Buddhist. I saw two Black Buddhists monk on TV while watching some International Chinese channel. On the latest issue of Tricycle magazine, there's a Black guy I think in the background riding a rollercoaster http://www.tricycle.com/issues/tricycle/

    There's also a theory (unproven and merely speculation) that Buddha was of Negroid origin by research and work done by a scholar named Godfrey Higgins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_Higgins).

    buddas3.jpg
    http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/india.html

    Nevertheless, do you think the African-African community in America would have more great Black leaders today? That there would be less steroptyical violence statistics stigma from Blacks and are known as the most non-violence and peaceful group in America?

    Hmmm... I don't know how to respond to some of this post. Especially the last part. I'll have to think about that paragraph.

    As for the origin of Buddha - he was from India. People from India sure don't look like people of European descent. So, I would assume that Siddhartha looked like the people from his area and descent. Which - I think is good.

    I just hope that Buddhism doesn't become so popular in the West that Buddha starts looking like a young Nick Nolte.

    As for "Black" leaders.. I'm having a hard time with this statement and singling out "black" as something different than just the general populace...

    I think that black Americans have a lot of great black leaders. There are blacks in all areas and levels of our society/world. I think there are many great black leaders in various communities, churches and religions that maybe just don't crave the "hollywood" type status that maybe a lot of "hungry" whites do.
    I think that television also plays a part in ideas that our children form. There are some types of music that glorify the "gangsta" image for both white and black. There are other forms of music that glorify the "punk/anarchy" image - for both black and white. Or for whoever it appeals to.

    I think it must be realized too, especially in the US, that blacks may still be the minority. I haven't checked stats - so I don't know for sure, but I'm just taking a guess here. It also wasn't very long ago that segregation was the US norm. Maybe there is still too much of a redneck mentatlity in the US.

    But, there are great black leaders everywhere that people can learn from.

    Steven Biko and Nelson Mandela taught great lessons of bravery, indomitable spirit, courage and character - even in the face of death. I wish I was as strong in my beliefs as these two men.

    -bf
  • edited October 2005
    the lead singer from faithless is a buddhist and black

    It seems that quite a few black people turn to Islam - has anyone else noticed this?
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited October 2005
    I did put a post up a bit ago dealing the the Nation of Islam. I think it's in the Islam forum. I even got in touch with the gentleman that runs the website for Muhammed Speaks.

    Very interesting .... ummm... statements he had.

    I don't mean for this to sound slanted or as being a racial issue... but here goes...

    I "think" (I don't know for sure, but "think") that part of what might draw blacks to the Nation of Islam is a sense of self or enpowerment.
    I can't say this from out-and-out knowledge, because the blacks I know don't live in poor areas, don't live in tenements or areas of high unemployment, etc. Plus, where I live, there isn't a lot of racial tension or people forcing their racial hatred upon everyone else. I'm not saying it's the best - but race doesn't seem to be a big issue where I live. In fact, we don't even talk about black or Asian - they're just Bobby, Dwight, Craig, Mits, etc.

    I believe the Nation of Islam, with it's teachings, give some of it's followers (possibly) a sense of self, a sense of belonging to something much larger than life itself and much greater than any other race or creed or religion.

    Some people gravitate towards this sort of teaching or "support". Happens in various churches or religions all over the place - so this shouldn't be read with the mindset that "this only happens in the Nation of Islam".

    The Nation of Islam is very pro-black. And in some communities - this may be exactly what some people need in their lives.

    Just a couple of thoughts...

    -bf
  • MagwangMagwang Veteran
    edited October 2005
    My hero Jazz/Funk maestro Herbie Hancock is a Nichiren buddhist

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock
    http://www.herbiehancock.com/
  • edited October 2005
    Hey, Magwang, did you get that avatar from a link I posted on here? LOL.
  • catweaselcatweasel Explorer
    edited October 2005
    If you were black , would you ask the same question ? Buddhism gives color no importance. You have however.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited October 2005
    The original 'likeness' of the Buddha will never be known, as he resisted all likenesses of himself, because he was fearful people would start to worship him. So all likeness is pure conjecture. just as an awful lot of Western 'Likenesses' of Christ, and for that matter, his Mother, are completely off the mark... Japanese Christians have a likeness of Christ that looks decidedly Far-Eastern... and drawings in books of Neanderthal and pre-historic man, all depict him as caucasian, though there is very good evidence to indicate he was anything but.....
    The short answer is, that it doesn't matter... it's all conjecture so why worry? I'll tell you what, when I next meet the Buddha, I'll take a snapshot and send it back.... ;)
  • catweaselcatweasel Explorer
    edited October 2005
    you say that the likeness will never be known. that has no importance anyway.
    And western buddhists do indeed , the same as a christian. Follow blindly without question. the western buddhist is most often someone that has rejected christianity and looks for something else. And now there are many "smart" buddhists to take advantage of that.

    For example : IF i was to have a following of 5000 people. The first thing is to tell them the harsh reality. Of those that remain i would further tell them of the harsh reality. And of those few yet remaining i might , might let them waste some of my short life.. Which means , anyone that seeks to embrace you, does not know.........
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