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The Laughing Buddha

edited November 2010 in Buddhism Basics
The Laughing Buddha, also known as "Milefo", "The Loving One", "The Friendly One", "Hotei", "Pu-Tai", "Buddha of Happiness", "The Happy Buddha", "Matrieya", "Budai Luohan" and had his origins in 10th Century China as a guy called Chi-tzu.

Anyone here who is able to enlighten me as to the significance of the Laughing Buddha? Stories about him?

And just another question, does anyone know of this figure also being called the Mahatma Buddha?

Thanks

Comments

  • edited November 2010
    If I ever own a Chinese food restaurant this is what I'm going to call it. :uphand:
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    edited November 2010
    You mean Budai?

    He is based on Chinese folklore:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai
  • edited November 2010
    I used to imagine the laughing buddha mocking me, saying "what are you looking at?"
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited November 2010
    tariki wrote: »
    The Laughing Buddha, also known as "Milefo", "The Loving One", "The Friendly One", "Hotei", "Pu-Tai", "Buddha of Happiness", "The Happy Buddha", "Matrieya", "Budai Luohan" and had his origins in 10th Century China as a guy called Chi-tzu.

    Anyone here who is able to enlighten me as to the significance of the Laughing Buddha? Stories about him?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai

    (It's not difficult.....)
    And just another question, does anyone know of this figure also being called the Mahatma Buddha?
    No.
    'Mahatma' is merely a Hindu expression of respect for a revered Sage or Guru.
    This would be Indian, not Chinese.
  • CinorjerCinorjer Veteran
    edited November 2010
    Hotei is a favorite of mine. I have a huge carved serpentine statue of him next to the door, for people to rub his tummy as they go in and out. Another half dozen little statues and paintings have him with kids climbing all over him while he laughs.

    Half the statues sold as Buddha at import shopts are fat little laughing Hotei, instead. I was attracted to the Crazy Monk archetype he represented, since I was flush into my rebellion stage from these oh-so-serious Holy War teachings from my youth. I don't think any other religion has anything like this.
  • edited November 2010
    Budai monks proclaimed himself as laughing buddha of of inner court in the 4th heaven realm, and left his body in the Song dynasty. Similarly as that of the avatar of LiveToLearn, Budai embodiment the heart of entire earth as onesness and therefore he is so blissfully in liberty.
  • edited November 2010
    his portliness scares me :(
  • LostieLostie Veteran
    edited November 2010
    The Laughing Buddha is also known as the Buddha of Wealth in Chinese culture.

    This is another popular Buddha which the Chinese worship, Ji Gong. Yes worship.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ji_Gong

    From where I come from, we have mediums inviting the Spirit of Ji Gong to possess their bodies, so as to interact with His devotees. I witnessed in person once such a possession when I was a small kid.

    BTW, he likes to wine and dine.

    Cheers! :)
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited November 2010
    Pietro I thought you were an emanation of laughing buddha though you may not be portly (yet and be afraid)..

    Because you make me laugh ahha
  • edited November 2010
    You MUST read this. It is SO symbolic. Pretty much anyone can relate to it. SERIOUSLY!! Read it. You'll know what he's talking about. The characters, the words - everything is a symbol. Share it with everyone you know!!!

    Mario was on vacation with his family. They went to a place with a pool of water. Since he was in a foreign place, Mario stayed close by his family. They went to the market together and had a great time. On vacation, they could stay up late playing games, watching movies, and eating snacks. It was always the BEST time EVER! “I’m in love with this family we’ve created,” the parents said to each other. Mario thought there was nobody who he could love more than his parents.

    Then there was PEACH. She was a princess. She always knew how to get what she wanted, and she really wanted MARIO. She knew MARIO. He knew her too, but he always forgot who she was. One thing’s for sure though… whenever you put PEACH and MARIO together, things just seemed to go so much better than when they were apart. They always seemed to find each other, too. The two were destined to be together. Rumor has it they were even babies together.

    Anyway, Peach came to the place by the pool of water and made her entrance to enchant Mario, who was away from his family at the time. “Whoa, who are you?” Mario asked. “I’m supposed to be with you. Remember?” Peach said. “We’re supposed to be together?” Mario asked. “No,” Peach replied, “We’re supposed to be GREAT together!” Now the Lord saw the way that Peach and Mario were together and devised a plan. “To be great together,” the Lord interjected, “you must have a great test. But first, you must listen to the dragon. He wishes to test you as well – he wants to see if you are ready or not to be together. You must appease him. Remember… I’ll be watching.”

    Now Bowser was a dragon. He had many followers. He seemed like a really nice dragon for the most part, but he had hidden intentions in some of the things he did. He wanted everything everyone else had, so you had to keep giving him treats to make him happy. He saw the way that Peach and Mario were together and disapproved. “If you two are truly meant to be together,” the dragon said, “then you will let the other have their own space.”

    He ordered that Peach and Mario be pulled apart. Peach and Mario started to question the dragon. “Why do you want us to be apart?” The dragon said nothing. He just kept them apart. Mario threw a tantrum. He cried, “I want my Peach!” Peach said, “I want you too, Mario, but you have to listen to the dragon. Remember?” Mario wouldn’t listen though. Not even Peach could appease him, and his reaction certainly did not please the dragon. Luigi, Yoshi, and Toad tried to calm Mario down, but they knew they couldn’t do anything beyond that. Dragon’s orders. “You got your treat!” Mario continued, “Now leave us alone.” The dragon and his followers left, leaving Mario and Peach. They thought they were safe, but they failed the test. Thus, they could only be together for so long. They were only at the beginning of their true test………
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited November 2010
    The Witch's Rave (Peach's)
    by Jeff Buckley

    It sounds just like a scream
    I don't know what you mean
    Your witchcraft's all around me
    In your ragged pagan scene

    You tell me all the ways around my garden that you like
    I float just like a bubble
    Heading for a spike

    All is well between the breasts of passenger and slave
    We'll never make it out alive to join
    The witches' rave

    You'd like to see him suffer
    For you fantasy and thrill
    He fell sick while we made love
    He's out there, somewhere, still

    Oh I feel the spell that you have cast, hot, pink, nasty
    Bubble gum, coming down just like a big red coal

    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee

    Hey! I try to keep all hidden
    When you come around
    Oh, no! The sight of broomsticks
    Sliding on the ground
    You're levitating something
    'Cause I feel so collectible

    We're all lying natural
    He's watching from a window up above
    I see he loves you, I'll bring you closer

    Something in my fate says it's not right for me
    Tell me
    Am I cursed or am I blessed?
    I can't tell, oh yes!
    'Cause all is well between the breasts of
    Passenger and slave
    I'll never make it out alive to join
    The witches' rave

    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    I can't help from looking
    Outside for a guarantee
    For a guarantee
  • edited November 2010
    This thread makes me remember another, which mentions an Adam Sandler movie that managed to confuse the issue:
    Brian wrote: »
    The movie anger management really screwed it up bad. Adam Sandler is like "If Buddha was all about self control and restraint and whatever, why does he weigh 600lbs?" and the monk is like "Are you making fun of my god?"

    I was cringing at that part, thinking "oh jeez. first they think the fat guy is the buddha, and now they are making him into a god"...... oh how that sucked for me :lol:

    Hee. ^_^
    (For some reason, I keep imagining Robert DeNiro as Travis Bickle doing the monk's line :p)
  • edited November 2010
    his portliness scares me :(

    Just glad it doesnt encourage you to order ANOTHER kebab!

    :)

    Anyway, many thanks to everyone here who has responded. I will certainly look up Wikipedia, and give the poem here and the story a detailed read......

    Just loved the image of the kiddies climbing all over him, thanks!

    Just to mention, my second question concerning the name "mahatma" was asked because on another forum I was told quite strongly - even forcefully - by someone claiming to be well versed in the Qabalah (and much else) that because I was not familiar with that particular name for the Laughing Buddha I could actually know nothing about Buddhism. He insists that is the genuine name for him, and associates it also with some story about monks drinking at the fountain and a disdain for asceticism in general.

    Anyway, whats in a name.........:p

    Thanks again, though please carry on. I do find this image/character loveable, even significant in many ways.
  • Floating_AbuFloating_Abu Veteran
    edited November 2010
    tariki wrote: »
    because on another forum

    Stop hanging around forums :P (puts tongue firmly back in cheek...) :buck:
  • edited November 2010
    tariki wrote: »
    Just to mention, my second question concerning the name "mahatma" was asked because on another forum I was told quite strongly - even forcefully - by someone claiming to be well versed in the Qabalah (and much else) that because I was not familiar with that particular name for the Laughing Buddha I could actually know nothing about Buddhism. He insists that is the genuine name for him, and associates it also with some story about monks drinking at the fountain and a disdain for asceticism in general.

    Huh..interesting. And yet...the term was never mentioned in my class on eastern religion or any of the books I've read on Buddhism, and yet I like to think I know a little bit about Buddhism.:rolleyes: Besides, mahatma is an honorific that can be, and has been, used for people of various faiths, not just Buddhism. Mohandas Gandhi is sometimes called Mahatma Gandhi, and he was technically Hindu.
  • edited November 2010
    Stop hanging around forums :P (puts tongue firmly back in cheek...) :buck:

    Unfortunately, they are not the worse things that I hang around.......:p

    Artemis, I think perhaps he has actually made a simple mistake and got confused with maitreya.

    But anyway, being very conceited, I just interpret his claim that I know nothing about Buddhism to my having a fine "beginners mind".

    :)
  • Floating_AbuFloating_Abu Veteran
    edited November 2010
    tariki wrote: »
    Unfortunately, they are not the worse things that I hang around.......:p

    Artemis, I think perhaps he has actually made a simple mistake and got confused with maitreya.

    But anyway, being very conceited, I just interpret his claim that I know nothing about Buddhism to my having a fine "beginners mind".

    :)

    I kind of see you the same way but as Hughie (shoey) once reprimanded me, 'Don't go about polishing old shoey's ego!' :) So .. sorry.

    gassho2.jpg
    People say, "To study Zen is difficult," but there is some misunderstanding why it is difficult. It is not difficult because to sit in cross-legged position is hard, or to attain enlightenment is hard, but it is hard to keep our mind pure, and to keep our practice pure in original way. Zen become more and more impure, and after Zen school established in China it is development of Zen, but at the same time it become impure. But I don't want to talk about Chinese Zen or history of Zen this morning, but why I say I want to talk about why it is difficult is because just you came here this morning, getting up early is very valuable experience for you. Just you want to come is very valuable. We say, "Sho shin." "Sho shin" means "Beginner's mind." If we can keep beginner's mind always, that is the goal of our practice. We recited Prajna Paramita Sutra this morning only once. I think we recited very well, but what will happen to us if we recite twice, three times, four time, and more? Then we will easily lose our attitude in reciting -- original attitude in reciting -- the sutra. Same thing will happen to us. For awhile we will keep our beginner's mind in your Zen practice but if we continue to practice one year, two years, three years, or more, we will have some improvement, and we will lose the limitless meaning of the original mind. In beginner's mind we have many possibilities, but in expert mind there is not much possibility. So in our practice it is important to resume to our original mind, or inmost mind, which we, ourselves -- even we, ourselves do not know what it is. This is the most important thing for us. The founder of our school emphasized this point. We have to remain always beginner's mind. This is the secret of Zen, and secret of various practices -- practice of flower arrangement, practice of Japanese singing, and various art. If we keep our beginner's mind we keep our precepts. When we lose our beginner's mind we will lose all the precepts.

    Shunryu Suzuki

    Thanks for reminder, tariki.
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