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Moh Hoh

ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
edited January 2011 in Buddhism Basics
Moh Hoh is thai for angry. I am angry and I am aware that anger is a unskillful emotion to embrace. I am angry at thailand for how it has become so seedy, I am angry at somebody who has gossiped about me and I never get angry really, this is the first time in a long while. Can anybody suggest ways to deal with this anger......

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  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Change the MohHoh, into Ho Ho.....

    Learn to laugh. At how ridiculous Anger actually is.
    Really, such a powerful emotion.
    So useless, 99% of the time....
    how can something so powerful demonstrate such weakness at one and the same time - ?!

    It's really quite laughable how we permit ourselves to become ensnared by something so futile and unreal....
  • zenffzenff Veteran
    Why not let it be?
    It will probably go away.
  • upalabhavaupalabhava
    edited January 2011
    Blot it out with discipline. (AN 7.60)

    -OR-

    Methods for Overcoming Anger
    “I am depleting my past negative karma. I should be very happy that I am getting off so lightly, because it could have been much worse. This person simply [gossiped about] me, but he could also have shot me. Therefore, I should feel very relieved that now this negativity has ripened so lightly and I am finished with it. It was not so bad after all and it is good to be rid of it, to get it off my back. I no longer have this karmic debt.”

    This type of thinking is very helpful. [...] To have gotten angry and upset would not have helped at all. If we can look at it in terms of: “This is depleting my past negative karma. This karmic debt has ripened now. Wonderful, it is finished. It could have been much worse,” this is a much saner way of handling it.
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited January 2011
    I am angry specifically at a woman or 2 who i thought were decent people but have come to relaize something. One is 41, thai with an aussi of 70. She said she was happy because today he has just bought her a house. Basically it is obvious she is waiting for him to die.
    Her sister, who I also thought was a decent person has spoken ill of me to people who I live, so I now think badly of them and do not know how to treat them.

    I see thailand, I see all of these westerners with thai women, ''how much'' you must ask me. It disgusts me. All of this has hit me today and I am angry at it all. I don't know why... I understand if you hold onto anger it will continue to burn, but this may have caused circumstances of suffering in the near future

  • RogerRoger
    edited January 2011
    The 70 y.o. Aussi with the house bought with the 41 Thai woman?

    I'd just assume he knows what he is doing and it gives him happiness.

    Or "hap-penis." :D

    Her sister? Maybe you came across needlessly or mistakenly as an ashl. Seriously, no disrespect from me. But that's what I would think about myself if it happened to me. "What did I do to give this person a negative impression?" "Maybe the person is just angry herself and it has nothing to do with me [meaning you]."

    Good luck! Take it easy. No big deal - really.

    Just don't get arrested in Thailand. :D
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    wow roger, you speak such clarity and sense. I can see why she has said what I have done, I basically got really intoxicated and she told some people who live and in the same place as me I took a certain substance. She is recovering from cancer, getting better but I can maybe see why she did this yes.

    And getting arrested in thailand, yea thats not good
  • NobodyNobody
    Change the MohHoh, into Ho Ho.....

    Learn to laugh...
    How very cute!
  • NobodyNobody
    Why are you angry at them? What did they do to you, except say some things? Why did their words hurt you?

    You say it's not true. If it really wasn't then it should be easy to laugh at.

    Why don't you want them to say things about you, true or not? Because of your reputation? Reputation for what?

    Why are you mad at a 41 woman marrying a 70 man? Is this bad? Some 70 men want to marry younger woman, and it give them a lot of happiness to buy them a house and give them all their money when they die.

    If I was a lonely 71 man and a 41 woman want to marry me and take care of me, I will give her everything I have, I will die soon anyway. Does this make you mad?

    If I was Thai and not Aussie, will you be less mad?

    I hope this helps you think about and reconcile your anger.
  • RogerRoger
    edited January 2011
    wow roger, you speak such clarity and sense.
    Nah..., well..., maybe..., doesn't matter just as long as the effect is positive. LOL.

    No big deal. Make sure you take care of yourself so you and the people around you will benefit. You know the drill. hang in there.

    :om:
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    well said 'nobody', again, more wisdom shared :) thank you
  • aHappyNihilistaHappyNihilist Veteran
    just think to yourself, what's the use of being angry? you can still try to change things but do it without anger.

    anger comes from your sense of control, we believe we can control the world, then when we can't change our situation we get frustrated and angry. you can act to change something, but don't be angry.

    you should try to have compassion for those two women, how bad will their lives be? one is wasting time for money, and deceiving someone in the process, she can't be very happy. and as for the person who needs to negatively gossip about others, it displays an insecurity and shallowness. she can't be very happy either.

    they can only affect you a little bit. but they effect themselves all day every day.
  • RogerRoger
    edited January 2011


    you should try to have compassion for those two women, how bad will their lives be? one is wasting time for money, and deceiving someone in the process, she can't be very happy. and as for the person who needs to negatively gossip about others, it displays an insecurity and shallowness. she can't be very happy either.
    I like what you're saying aHN but want at add IMHO, unless they tell us directly, we don't know what other people's motivations are. I'd try to give my POV with equal import without assuming we know what other people are thinking. The 70 yo might have begged to younger woman to accept his gift, unlikely I agree, but unless she tells you her motivation and feelings you can never really know. It's like the justice system, "innocent until proven guilty," something like that.

    IMO as an amateur of course. ;)

  • aHappyNihilistaHappyNihilist Veteran
    yea, but despite their motivations, anger is still useless in helping us achieve our goal, all it does is cause suffering and cloud perception.

    everyone is basically the same, their actions come from their circumstances and who they are, neither of which can really be blamed on them.
  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]
    Sometimes, it arises because of unknown bad habit. A good antidote is to ponder on Buddha Amitabha and its pureland.
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    yes anger is something very negative to bring into ones and others life, the old story of the hot coal and holding onto to it and being burned longer, the same as anger. I just do not know if I can look/treat these people the same. I mean I can say hello and whatever, but I will not think the same of them. I am not an angry person generally, 99% of the time I am very mellow
  • RogerRoger
    I read an essay a while ago by H.H. Dalai Lama. He had absolutely nothing good to say about anger. So..., get rid of it! Don't have it. Nothing good comes from it. :sawed:
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