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After Siddharta- what have we done .

CSEeCSEe Veteran
edited January 2011 in Buddhism Basics
Billions of years ago human lives in a world where all animal and species lives in and follow a same law-the natural law . After human population grows , our desire also grows , our demand or expectation of material got higher . Human became more and more comfortable with material world and fear old age , fear sick and fear death more and more .
Siddharta have the chance to live in the best of material world and is common sense that his fear is much-much more than normal human .
But After he found Buddha , he understand that old, sick and death is nothing to fear since this is part of purification process and the reason why we fear is that we are too greedy . We are too greedy for young, too greedy for healthy and too greedy to stay alive . But since I belief he was wrongly quoted , we still suffer of these fear now .
All suffering should end after Siddharta found Buddha but in fact human grows with rather different awareness . I belief human purification process was delayed due to our greed but still we will all reach Buddha . Human grows to different awareness of disturbing natural source , distubing our mother nature with all our rubbish , distubing the peace among human , distubing other species........distubing the lives of billions of other species .....we are actually creates more regret / more karma .
What hv we done.........

Comments

  • CSEeCSEe Veteran
    any comment anyone?
  • CSEeCSEe Veteran
    Is there anyone to comment???
  • ...I think your approach is closer to liberation from suffering than most...
  • CSEeCSEe Veteran
    Hi vincenzi.....I dont get your message well.......
  • focusing on nature to experience buddha-nature... is a more efficient approach.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited January 2011
    Siddharta did not have much much more fear than normal human. In fact, Siddharta had much much less fear because he was not a slave to sensual & material things.

    The mind of Siddharta entered the first jhana (absorption meditation) when he was just a young boy. Although Siddharta had the best sensual & material things, Siddharta did not find pleasure in sensual & material things. When he lived in his palace, he witnessed other human beings were enslaved to, addicted to and burned by sensual & material things.

    Siddharta had a wife when he was 16 years old. But he did not have a child until he was 29 years old. When he had his child, Rahula (which means 'bondage'), he left his home.

    My opinion is Siddharta had sex with his wife so he could make his father happy, by producing an heir to the throne. He did his family duty for his father & then left home.

    Buddha was not attached to the world. Buddha said the world is like a 'royal painted chariot' (or like a prostitute looking beautiful with make-up). Buddha said only fools are attached to the world.

    We should be grateful to mother nature. Mother nature gives us food. But mother nature is also very angry & remorseless. Mother nature makes earthquakes, floods, disease and many other bad things. Buddha was not attached to mother nature.

    Buddha understand old age, sick and death is "suchness" or "thusness". It is normal & ordinary. The Buddha said it cannot be any other way.

    The mind of Buddha finished purification process at his enlightenment, when he was 35 years old. Buddha did not wait for old age, sickness & death for the purification process.

    Buddha finished purification process using wisdom. Wisdom is the way to purify the mind.

    That is my discussion

    Kind regards

    :)
  • CSEeCSEe Veteran
    Siddharta did not have much much more fear than normal human. In fact, Siddharta had much much less fear because he was not a slave to sensual & material things.

    The mind of Siddharta entered the first jhana (absorption meditation) when he was just a young boy. Although Siddharta had the best sensual & material things, Siddharta did not find pleasure in sensual & material things. When he lived in his palace, he witnessed other human beings were enslaved to, addicted to and burned by sensual & material things.

    Siddharta had a wife when he was 16 years old. But he did not have a child until he was 29 years old. When he had his child, Rahula (which means 'bondage'), he left his home.

    My opinion is Siddharta had sex with his wife so he could make his father happy, by producing an heir to the throne. He did his family duty for his father & then left home.

    Buddha was not attached to the world. Buddha said the world is like a 'royal painted chariot' (or like a prostitute looking beautiful with make-up). Buddha said only fools are attached to the world.

    We should be grateful to mother nature. Mother nature gives us food. But mother nature is also very angry & remorseless. Mother nature makes earthquakes, floods, disease and many other bad things. Buddha was not attached to mother nature.

    Buddha understand old age, sick and death is "suchness" or "thusness". It is normal & ordinary. The Buddha said it cannot be any other way.

    The mind of Buddha finished purification process at his enlightenment, when he was 35 years old. Buddha did not wait for old age, sickness & death for the purification process.

    Buddha finished purification process using wisdom. Wisdom is the way to purify the mind.

    That is my discussion

    Kind regards

    :)
    Sir , you are using "purification process" I never heard or use it before posting here.....are you agree with my awareness?
    Lets gossip about Mr Siddharta ok......I heard his rich dad give him the best of material world....so no one can be so-so sure of how he feel .......he could be " could be" fear losing all by getting old....is common sense that way....( remmember he did wish us to think base on our own common sense ok )....and whether inside his 5 star bed room with 5 star wife making love 5 times a day or not only the bed knows......( sorry for being rude....even my daughter do not know I make love with my wife yesterday and yet three of us are in the same room ......take that a joke ok....learning Buddha is fun )
    or maybe is genatic....his mother also had problem conceive.......

    He maybe said "RAHU" when his son was born and left his son for his father to take care is wrong by civil law.......if this happen in Malaysia he will be jailed you know......and if his happen to my father....he will be a bankrap....

    In Buddha..I want to belief old,sick , birth and death is part of purification process so lets say I get sick and see a doctor....the handsom young doctor said " Mr Ee sorry to tell you....you have cancer cell in your brain and you will get sick but die soon....so now please pay this bill before you die "
    In Buddha if I die not because of the cancer cell but death is part of purification process ... the virus is not the cause but a factor....
    Mother nature never bother us at all.....they are also in thier own purification process.....is human maybe delaying thier process....

    Siddharta I want to belief fear death , sick , old but his most fear I think is fear of not knowing....but after he found Buddha...he understood fear and ALL SUFFERING SHOULD END AFTER SIDDHARTA FOUND BUDDHA.... he have no more fear....but maybe he was wrongly quoted.....that cause yhis suffering to continue....
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited January 2011
    Lets gossip. :)

    The scriptures report how Siddharta felt in his three palaces. The scripture report the Buddha had three palaces, one for the summer, one for the rain & one for the winter. He had the best of everything and was entertained by female musicians. The scriptures report Siddharta, in the palaces, was disenchanted with sensual & material things & inclined his mind towards concentration meditation.

    The Buddha did not do anything wrong leaving his wife & son because the son was for his father and his father was the king & the wealthiest man, with many servants.

    This is the same as when people use a surrogate mother or a sperm donor to have children. The child does not belong to the surrogate mother or sperm donor. They are not responsible for the child.

    Buddha purified his mind. Buddha did not purify his body.

    All the best

    Salamat Siang

    :)

  • CSEeCSEe Veteran
    edited January 2011
    Lets gossip. :)

    The scriptures report how Siddharta felt in his three palaces. The scripture report the Buddha had three palaces, one for the summer, one for the rain & one for the winter. He had the best of everything and was entertained by female musicians. The scriptures report Siddharta, in the palaces, was disenchanted with sensual & material things & inclined his mind towards concentration meditation.

    The Buddha did not do anything wrong leaving his wife & son because the son was for his father and his father was the king & the wealthiest man, with many servants.

    This is the same as when people use a surrogate mother or a sperm donor to have children. The child does not belong to the surrogate mother or sperm donor. They are not responsible for the child.

    Buddha purified his mind. Buddha did not purify his body.

    All the best

    Salamat Siang

    :)

    wow...I heard also he had 3 palace....mari kita gossip pak... if I have 3 palace maybe my father do not worry I run away simply because I got no more energy to run......maybe what you say is true sir , he just watching only......

    To me Siddharta before he found Buddha and after he found Buddha should be considered 2 different charector ( sorry my spelling is no good ok ) 2 different personality .... If we study in bUddha point of view he was not wrong leave his son not because his father got money simply because In Buddha there are no relationship.....we hv to treat all equal so he treat his son , his wife same he treat himself or other...simply in Buddha Rahula is not his son......

  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited January 2011
    Siddharta was on a spiritual quest.

    As Buddha, he returned to his son.

    Later, Rahula gained full enlightenment.

    Siddharta found Dhamma for all of humanity.

    :)

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