Eating Vegetable is more " sinfull" than eating meat .

CSEe

Sorry in advance .....again sorry.

I belief all living and non-living is a form of energy moving / evolved towards a perfect / pure sound energy named by Siddharta-Buddha .
So I want to belief Buddha spirit is in all living or non-living depend on how we see it base on our own awareness .
Lets compare vegetable and animal.
Vegetable are actually same like us , they breath oxygen , need water , need space , have children or even make love ( maybe not the same as us ) but most of them NEVER kill , never ask for more space required , use our waste Co2 for food but give oxygen for all lives.....this is Buddha spirit ....NOT LIKE US....
But......sorry....very sorry....trillion appology......for thousand of year certain group of people claim to be master of Buddishism had give a wrong message to the world by just eating vegetable.....so lets us have open mind...sincerely without ego....discuss this issue .
In my current awareness maybe eating fruits without seed or even with seeds but we have to throw it to soil if not plant is maybe the best option......helping the plant to grow.........
Ok.......please dont use bad words....dont be mad at me..........please discuss......may god save me...................

CSEe

Who's idea anyway to be vegetarian associated with BUDDHA ? From my gossip about Mr Sddharta life .....I want to belief that is his enemy Devadatta's idea from the first place....and maybe is became more popular when Asoka became vegetarian.....maybe became a habit when Chinese think that is Siddharta's way to be vegetarian......maybe siddharta said " Is up to you......eat what ever you think is right but dont regret it ok....." ........maybe vegetarian human follow wrong master.....wrong bus going wrong place........MAYBE WRONG QUOTED....

compassionate_warrior

CSEe, just recently there was a discussion titled: "Plants--sentient???" It was all about this idea that plants are sentient beings, like animals. But not everyone agreed. You may enjoy reading that thread. You can do a search for it, in the "search" window at the top of the each page here.

CSEe

Thanks warrior.....you see sincerely and frankly I never like to read anything......I used to by sex books but that was years ago.....beside that I never buy or read any books .....simply because I have problem with words....many of them I do not understand- english words ....chinese words worst still.....I know limited wording but I use it to max...
regards to buddhism teaching.....worst still ......with all the "ta"...."tha"......please dont ask me to read or listen to monk teaching...maybe you read and we discuss.....But thanks alot for your concern....

compassionate_warrior

There's a well-known African-American comedian in the US, named Dick Gregory, who has lived much of his life eating only fruit, and he raised is children on a fruit-only diet. They are all healthy. It is possible to do. Maybe we are too attached to food, so we eat vegetables, because we can't imagine surviving on nothing but fruit. But eating only fruit would probably be the most Buddhistic thing to do, because to eat that way would require overcoming attachment to many foods. But some people need meat, due to their own unique health problems.

CSEe

There's a well-known African-American comedian in the US, named Dick Gregory, who has lived much of his life eating only fruit, and he raised is children on a fruit-only diet. They are all healthy. It is possible to do. Maybe we are too attached to food, so we eat vegetables, because we can't imagine surviving on nothing but fruit. But eating only fruit would probably be the most Buddhistic thing to do, because to eat that way would require overcoming attachment to many foods. But some people need meat, due to their own unique health problems.

Hi warrior.....most of us including myself are not awake....we have desire -good and bad....we eat for pleasure not as nessersity...by observing nature we can see that we are actually evil......most of the animal eat only to survive...they never develope to use handphone...never use make-up....but just us...the so call advance human...we are actually devil to the all purification proces by all living or non-living....

I may understand my Buddha....but we I see all my friend eat Kentucky Fried Chicken....I cant bear the desire ok....I understand at time of my father dies I should not cry....but my friend I cry like a baby when I saw everyone cries......so that why I need support....

compassionate_warrior

You can't bear the desire for Kentucky Fried? I can't bear to eat it!!

Crying is natural and normal. Buddhism doesn't mean you can't cry. The Dalai Lama cried during the protests in China in 2008. He says cry when it is appropriate, when you feel sorrow. But don't cling to the sorrow.

CSEe

You can't bear the desire for Kentucky Fried? I can't bear to eat it!!

Crying is natural and normal. Buddhism doesn't mean you can't cry. The Dalai Lama cried during the protests in China in 2008. He says cry when it is appropriate, when you feel sorrow. But don't cling to the sorrow. </blockquote

I am of the opinion that is not proper , not suitable using a human or any living or non-living associated with Buddha....we are too far from Buddha.

and I want to belief in " awake " stage.....suffering or pleasure is never axist....

compassionate_warrior

Crying is natural and normal. Buddhism doesn't mean you can't cry. The Dalai Lama cried during the protests in China in 2008. He says cry when it is appropriate, when you feel sorrow. But don't cling to the sorrow.

What isn't proper--crying? Crying is human. Maybe when you're Enlightened, you don't cry. But it's ok for ordinary humans to cry. This helps us develop compassion.

CSEe

Crying is natural and normal. Buddhism doesn't mean you can't cry. The Dalai Lama cried during the protests in China in 2008. He says cry when it is appropriate, when you feel sorrow. But don't cling to the sorrow.

What isn't proper--crying? Crying is human. Maybe when you're Enlightened, you don't cry. But it's ok for ordinary humans to cry. This helps us develop compassion.

I cry like a baby when my father dies.....but In Buddha if one day...maybe million years from now when I fully awake......I maybe will not cry....not now ok....I cry even seeing my phone bill

compassionate_warrior

It's ok to cry. We accept ourselves as we are, in our unenlightened state. If we were not able to cry, then we wouldn't be able to understand other peoples' grief; we wouldn't have compassion. We learn compassion from our own sadness. This is good. No need to be ashamed.

CSEe

It's ok to cry. We accept ourselves as we are, in our unenlightened state. If we were not able to cry, then we wouldn't be able to understand other peoples' grief; we wouldn't have compassion. We learn compassion from our own sadness. This is good. No need to be ashamed.

Yes .....but I am of the opinion lets not be any limitation to understand Buddha....lets us move to higher awareness by more understanding on Buddha.....hopefully in very near future ok....my friend warrior.....if you dont cry...maybe I will not cry......If I not suffer from sick,old.death maybe my daughter will not also...if my daughter not suffer maybe my grand daughter no not understand suffer....maybe thats is Siddharta's wish.....maybe we are in wrong bus...going wrong place.....

CSEe

Anyone want to comment?????

federica

Not really.
You don't follow any recommendations to read, study and research, making many feeble excuses, and leave us to do it all for you.
And this subject has veered off topic, and as Compassionate warrior has pointed out there are other threads for you to check out.

Oh of course.
Sorry.
you don't like to read, do you?

My bad.