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We are the Future?
MindGate
United States Veteran
People. Mainly people under 21. Yeah, most of them I dislike with great intensity. Why? Well, because of the way they act.
1) They care only of sensual pleasures. They do not care about trying to stop suffering, or wondering about the unknown, or trying to make the world a better place. They don't care about repercussions about what they do. They are selfish, materialistic assholes.
2) They are BORING. They act the same, all of them. They all follow the same social norms, act very predictably, and don't think for themselves at all. They are robots, zombies, mindless creatures. They do the same meaningless things every day and repeat. They strive for nothing, not even happiness.
3) THEY DON'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES. They are following what their parents tell them, or teachers, or other authority figures without question. If they are told Jesus is real, then they will believe it without question! If they are told pot is evil, they believe it. If they are told heavy metal music is Satan's music, they believe it! They don't think for themselves.
4) They don't care about trying the make the world a better place or our future. Everyone wants to be a football player, a singer, an actress, a famous slut, or whatever. How the hell does this contribute positively the the human race whatsoever? Sure, its part of our "culture," but have you SEEN what our culture consists of?!
5) They are just ASSHOLES. They are mean to anybody different, or anybody ugly, or anybody with any kind of fault. They aren't caring or compassionate. They care about nothing but their own sensual, materialistic, selfish pleasures.
And this is what I see on daily basis. Sure, not all people are like this, but many many many people are.
God, if this is really what we are turning out to be as Americans, we're in trouble. Hell, if we are the future, we're screwed. Prepare for Super Bush.
Comments?
1) They care only of sensual pleasures. They do not care about trying to stop suffering, or wondering about the unknown, or trying to make the world a better place. They don't care about repercussions about what they do. They are selfish, materialistic assholes.
2) They are BORING. They act the same, all of them. They all follow the same social norms, act very predictably, and don't think for themselves at all. They are robots, zombies, mindless creatures. They do the same meaningless things every day and repeat. They strive for nothing, not even happiness.
3) THEY DON'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES. They are following what their parents tell them, or teachers, or other authority figures without question. If they are told Jesus is real, then they will believe it without question! If they are told pot is evil, they believe it. If they are told heavy metal music is Satan's music, they believe it! They don't think for themselves.
4) They don't care about trying the make the world a better place or our future. Everyone wants to be a football player, a singer, an actress, a famous slut, or whatever. How the hell does this contribute positively the the human race whatsoever? Sure, its part of our "culture," but have you SEEN what our culture consists of?!
5) They are just ASSHOLES. They are mean to anybody different, or anybody ugly, or anybody with any kind of fault. They aren't caring or compassionate. They care about nothing but their own sensual, materialistic, selfish pleasures.
And this is what I see on daily basis. Sure, not all people are like this, but many many many people are.
God, if this is really what we are turning out to be as Americans, we're in trouble. Hell, if we are the future, we're screwed. Prepare for Super Bush.
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Some people think this process stops and we grow up, but it never does. We're still developing to some degree the same way we were as children. The conditioning of our past has flowed right into the present moment and continues on; there was no "growing up". We're still that same child after much conditioning... many life experiences and thoughts.
Conditionality is the heart of understanding how we're the way we are, and how to change. Cause and effect. Karma, if you will. It's even said that karma is the reason children are born in such conditions, with good or bad characteristics such as poor eyesight or being musically inclined (and so on).
And of course most, if not all, people on this site are excluded from the list simply because these people seem interesting and think for themselves (though many are assholes, but so am I). I'm talking about the people who aren't that.
People act that way because of ignorance and the fact that they have this ignorance means that they are deserving of compassion. Can you really blame someone for being ignorant? I don't think you can.
Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"
Plato. 345BC.
Maybe that will convince you that what you complain of has been a source of complaint for millennia.
Follow Ghandi's advice:
"Be the change you want to see, in the world."
With metta,
Phra Greg
As it is, I just think you're being facetious.
Which has its place of course.
Sometimes.....
:skeptic:
P.S. Is your girlfriend like all the rest you describe? If not, then your statement, "they're all......" isn't true. Unless you include her and yourself in that statement.
Is this new? Why are you grousing?
What IS your problem?
You're barely "out of nappies" and already you know it all.
Talk about humility.
Youth is wasted on the young.
It really isn't a good idea to sass your elders.
Your new-found illumination has left your manners wanting....
I'm old enough to be your mother. :shake:
lol, i swear, sometimes i feel like i'm still not done making it up to my mother... poor woman.
:bowdown:
I did say IF I THOUGHT HE HAD BEEN SERIOUS - I would have admonished him for not quantifying and at least elaborating. In any case, his mentioning his age, and disagreeing, was amusing, but maybe not entirely the right time or place. Sometimes a discussion needs to remain on track. But more sound judgement sometimes comes with age..... (And I emphasise the 'sometimes'.)
Then, he got sarcastic and frankly, I don't believe it was called for.
I think that's all that needs to be said....
MG, what about some of the suggestions we made before; there was some good stuff on the other thread. For now, until you find some kindred spirits, you'll have to be your own light, an independent person. Get support where you can find it, and occupy your mind (I recall a suggestion about taking an online college course on Buddhism or Comparative Religion). In any case, we're here for you.
*grumbles* darn mature acting teenagers.....
also MG, i don't know where you're from, but the place i grew up was a horrible little sort of town with ONE mentality and ONE religion and ONE color, lol. at the time, it seemed to me that the entire world was full of hateful close minded jerks, but when i got a little older and moved out, i realized... it was actually the OTHER way around. i also noticed that a lot of the people whom gave me such a hard time growing up, actually became quite liberal and open minded once they moved out of our town as well.
sometimes, it's just easier to go with the flow. a lot of people don't know what to think about themselves during the teen years, so they just try and fit in as best as possible. don't be mad at others for not being as strong in character as you are, keep your head high and do the best that you can to be true to yourself. perhaps you can inspire others to do the same.
Whadoyousay, folks, if we just take people's comments at face value, instead of reading things into the posts that aren't there? If we go around second-guessing people's intent, we'll guarantee communications meltdowns, hurt feelings, and confusion. ( :rolleyes: sheesh!)
Anyway, nice to see the discussion get on-topic. Maybe some of you didn't know MindGate was 15? I like your compassion, ZombieGirl, though, personally, I disagree with you on one point. Maybe fitting in worked for you; doesn't for everyone.
I think it's not always possible to fit in; one can't twist oneself into a pretzel and try to be someone one is not. Don't Buddhists tend more towards being loners, anyway, because their values don't fit with the societal norm? What MG is going through is normal for many, I know it was for me. There's a great Rhinoceros Suttra that describes how one should be true to oneself, have the strength to do that, and be grateful for the occasional kindred spirit who comes along. http://www.hermitary.com/solitude/rhinoceros.html
Hang in there, MG; times will change. Somewhere there must be other misfits you might get along with? Who knows, maybe there are some renegades among the older people in your community you've overlooked.
I look around and see a young generation that, for the most part, couldn't care less if black and white want to dance together, date or marry. More and more of them couldn't care less if someone is gay.
This generation so desperately wants an education that they're willing to take on a crushing debt to get it, and then they're told by rich old white men in power that the world can't afford to pay them a living wage anymore. They're faced with a world struggling under the stress of our civilizations and have to watch the same old farts who promised them a better world stick them with the burden of pulling off a miracle.
I know about a dozen young men and women personally, and they're all just people. They're no better or worse than the people of our generation, when we were that young.
Deal with it as best as you can. Your not as alone as you feel. You just have to find the right people and treat the other nitwits with self-defense yet not make things worse by aggravating, and anger aggression.
Be happy you have a girlfriend. Aside from family I can't count that many people I was particularly understood by on one or maybe two hands. I did have a kind family though so that was good.
Also it might be hard for some people to understand because experiences are different in different communities. I mean people on the forum might not understand. For example I was raised in a very conservative community, but although the religious views were different there were very many 'outcasts' to meet and enough kind people in the popular kids who treated me with a bit of kindness. So maybe the conservativism in my local school had a more kind heart than in your community? And it was a conservative urban environment which is probably totally different automatic. Move to a city when you are older there are plenty of interesting people though the modern world isolates people and if you are very shy it might not help much. Plus a city is just a different flavor of disaster than the country or wherever you are from. Its samsara of many flavors. So buddhism is a good pursuit wherever you are because it is dealing with the real problem.
Or just a thought is that you yourself need a developement of awareness and social skills or whatever is needed to have peace in your environment. Or at least some degree of peace. A friend makes a big difference because we need genuine heart connections to feel ok. If you are suffering you are not alone there are others that feel suffering due to a lack of heart signals with their community. I have experienced that myself, and have overcome a lot of the suffering. One skill was to know I was not alone in my suffering.
Also its an ages and stages thing to some degree. At different ages people have various typical problems. But its a generalization and a trend and not everybody fits the pattern.