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Rebirth: Everyone Is You {Very Silly Theory)
ajani_mgo
Veteran
Sorry if I always bore you all with my silly, childish alternative theories...
For a while now I have harnessed this idea of rebirth in me...
Perhaps there is no such thing as I die and I live again next life. Not because there is no self but because there is nothing at all the same, personality, karma or anything between your present and future self.
Rather, what you do now - for example, imagine myself as Osama and bomb people around. Then I die. OK that's it.
A child is born somewhere where Al-Qaeda bombs regularly. This child is thus subject to Al-Qaeda's actions - which was in the first place started by Osama - Osama, while thinking that he did do good, actually in the view of the child, did bad.
So thus retribution actually is not an exact replica, neither is kindness awarded with good. All are products of your karma - and since karma can be collectively generated and it is agreed that it is the karma that is reborn, not the inexistent atman(sorry if I spelt it wrongly, I meant self), you do not necessarily have to be reborn one by one. Meaning that 800 soldiers who die in battle, for example, might have their karmas continued to affect just that single life.
The effects that are felt immediately, like a slash on someone's neck, thus become your karma - the person who suffers from your act and dies may just fuse into you into a single karma. Sorry if it's a little confusing. So actually karma and lifes are imporportionate - just interrelated.
Thus the concept of rebirth is a very humanistic one - teaching that you should not do the absolute evil (like murdering infants) since it will affect other karmas, and the other karmas in turn affect future lives of that karma. Besides, your own karma also continues its own path - thus when you do a bad, not only you but many others are affected. WHen you do good, many others are also affected. Your next life will receive your karma - and good or bad the life is depends on thus your karma. Therefore it suggests that everyone is essentially you - and you should only do good since good is what you wish for others to do onto you.
Well this might be a crappy theory that is ultimately confusing but I thought I'd just like to share it with you all. :doh:
For a while now I have harnessed this idea of rebirth in me...
Perhaps there is no such thing as I die and I live again next life. Not because there is no self but because there is nothing at all the same, personality, karma or anything between your present and future self.
Rather, what you do now - for example, imagine myself as Osama and bomb people around. Then I die. OK that's it.
A child is born somewhere where Al-Qaeda bombs regularly. This child is thus subject to Al-Qaeda's actions - which was in the first place started by Osama - Osama, while thinking that he did do good, actually in the view of the child, did bad.
So thus retribution actually is not an exact replica, neither is kindness awarded with good. All are products of your karma - and since karma can be collectively generated and it is agreed that it is the karma that is reborn, not the inexistent atman(sorry if I spelt it wrongly, I meant self), you do not necessarily have to be reborn one by one. Meaning that 800 soldiers who die in battle, for example, might have their karmas continued to affect just that single life.
The effects that are felt immediately, like a slash on someone's neck, thus become your karma - the person who suffers from your act and dies may just fuse into you into a single karma. Sorry if it's a little confusing. So actually karma and lifes are imporportionate - just interrelated.
Thus the concept of rebirth is a very humanistic one - teaching that you should not do the absolute evil (like murdering infants) since it will affect other karmas, and the other karmas in turn affect future lives of that karma. Besides, your own karma also continues its own path - thus when you do a bad, not only you but many others are affected. WHen you do good, many others are also affected. Your next life will receive your karma - and good or bad the life is depends on thus your karma. Therefore it suggests that everyone is essentially you - and you should only do good since good is what you wish for others to do onto you.
Well this might be a crappy theory that is ultimately confusing but I thought I'd just like to share it with you all. :doh:
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Palzang
Well, just dammed glad that Buddhism never outcasts individuals as being infidels and setting off a bomb on them. :doh:
Life experiences are more important teachers than words from anyone else can ever be. So if your life has taught you that this theory is true, then for you it must be true.
Not always by any means. :smilec:
I think you've hit the nail on the head. I would say that your theory very much matches my own, even though it may not be the one traditionally promoted.
I think the Buddha had it right, and science is now catching up. As a matter of fact transmigration is one of the only 'beliefs' of a religion or thought system that actually has scientific backing (not that it matters).
The Buddha was down to earth, no nonsense, and practical. This is why many people are drawn to Buddhism. It is not mythical, magical, or other worldly. It is a simple path for the life you are actually living, in the world you are actually living in.
Palzang
Palzang
In a nutshell the sutra states to test, analyse and observe the teachings for yourself-if they suit you then well and good, if your theory can be tested and analysed then well and good for you!
P.S. I think the "Fat Buddha", that you refer to is actually some Chinese sage, a buddhist yes, but apparently not the actual Buddha as we know him (Siddartha Gotama). I read this somewhere a few days ago...anyone else know of this?