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Hafiz-"Where is the door to the tavern?" from The Gift

TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existenceSamsara Veteran
edited February 2011 in Arts & Writings
Where is the door to God?
In the sound of a barking dog
In the ring of a hammer
In a drop of rain
In the face of
I see


  • I see myself looking out through the eyes of a dog, but what am I? :)
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    Hears the dog barking, takes a sip of tea.
  • All things come from the silence and go back to the silence. The grass grows all by itself.

    Looks like you've found the gateless gate.
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    edited February 2011
    "Looks like you've found the gateless gate"

    Maybe Hafiz found it.
    A dog licking its own ass understands better than I.

  • Experience pure and simple, minus the stories.
  • I like the Emptiness Gate. :D
  • I like the Emptiness Gate. :D
    Everything is empty of inherent existence, including the gods.
  • With that said, I've read a lot of Hafiz and have enjoyed his poetry during my theism cycle of interpretation.
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    Theistic or not I like Hafiz, his poetry and understanding are rather sublime.
  • VajraheartVajraheart Veteran
    edited February 2011
    Yea, he's deep, though I don't find him as deep as Buddhas, but still... a great saint non-the-less... maybe a Bodhisattva incarnate through that tradition for the sake of others? Who knows? The Buddha did say that this would happen. I love Hafiz, Mansur Mastana, Rabia, Rumi, Kabir... all great Islamic poet saints of incredible import.
  • there are no accidents. someone has touched that space in between words.
  • I like Hafiz
  • “The way I talk is a little strange. No speaker in the world talks like me. Technically it is wrong; it takes almost double the time! But those speakers have a different purpose – my purpose is absolutely different from theirs. They speak because they are prepared for it; they are simply repeating something that they have rehearsed. Secondly, they are speaking to impose a certain ideology, a certain idea on you. Thirdly, to them speaking is an art; they go on refining it.

    As far as I am concerned, I am not what they call a speaker or an orator. It is not an art to me or a technique; technically I go on becoming worse every day! But our purposes are totally different. I don´t want to impress you in order to manipulate you. I don´t speak for any goal to be achieved through convincing you. I don´t speak to convert you into a Christian, into a Hindu or a Mohammedan, into a theist or an atheist. These are not my concerns.

    My speaking is really one of my devices for meditation. Speaking has never been used this way: I speak not to give you a message, but to stop your mind functioning.

    I speak nothing prepared. I don´t know myself what is going to be the next word; hence I never make any mistake. One makes a mistake if one is prepared. I never forget anything, because one forgets if one has been remembering it. So I speak with a freedom that perhaps nobody has ever spoken with.

    I am not concerned whether I am consistent, because that is not the purpose. A man who wants to convince you and manipulate you through his speaking has to be consistent, has to be logical, has to be rational, to overpower your reason. He wants to dominate through words.

    My purpose is so unique: I am using words just to create silent gaps. The words are not important so I can say anything contradictory, anything absurd, anything unrelated, because my purpose is just to create gaps. The words are secondary; the silences between those words are primary. This is simply a device to give you a glimpse of meditation. And once you know that it is possible for you, you have traveled far in the direction of your own being.

    Most of the people in the world don´t think that it is possible for mind to be silent. Because they don´t think it is possible, they don´t try. How to give people a taste of meditation was my basic reason to speak, so I can go on speaking eternally; it does not matter what I am saying. All that matters is that I give you a few chances to be silent, which you find difficult on your own in the beginning.

    I cannot force you to be silent, but I can create a device in which spontaneously you are bound to be silent. I am speaking, and in the middle of a sentence, when you were expecting another word to follow, nothing follows but a silent gap. Your mind was looking to listen, and waiting for something to follow, and does not want to miss it – naturally it becomes silent. What can the poor mind do? If it was well known at what points I will be silent, if it was declared to you that on such and such points I will be silent, then you could manage to think; you would not be silent. Then you know: ‘This is the point where he is going to be silent; now I can have a little chit-chat with myself.’ But because it comes absolutely suddenly.... I don´t know myself why at certain points I stop.

    Anything like this, in any orator in the world, will be condemned, because an orator stopping again and again means he is not well prepared, he has not done the homework. It means that his memory is not reliable, that he cannot find, sometimes, what word to use. But because it is not oratory, I am not concerned about the people who will be condemning me – I am concerned with you.

    It is not only here, but far away...anywhere in the world where people will be listening to the video or to the audio, they will come to the same silence. My success is not to convince you, my success is to give you a real taste so that you can become confident that meditation is not a fiction, that the state of no-mind is not just a philosophical idea, that it is a reality; that you are capable of it, and that it does not need any special qualifications.

    With me, to be silent is easier because of one other reason. I am silent; even while I am speaking I am silent. My innermost being is not involved at all. What I am saying to you is not a disturbance or a burden or a tension to me; I am as relaxed as one can be. Speaking or not speaking does not make any difference to me.

    Naturally, this kind of state is infectious.

    Because I cannot go on speaking the whole day to keep you in meditative moments, I want you to become responsible. Accepting that you are capable of being silent will help you when you are meditating alone. Knowing your capacity...and one comes to know one´s capacity only when one experiences it. There is no other way.

    Don´t make me wholly responsible for your silence, because that will create a difficulty for you. Alone, what are you going to do? Then it becomes a kind of addiction, and I don´t want you to be addicted to me. I don´t want to be a drug to you.

    I want you to be independent and confident that you can attain these precious moments on your own.

    If you can attain them with me, there is no reason why you cannot attain them without me, because I am not the cause. You have to understand what is happening: listening to me, you put your mind aside.

    Listening to the ocean, or listening to the thundering of the clouds, or listening to the rain falling heavily, just put your ego aside, because there is no need... The ocean is not going to attack you, the rain is not going to attack you, the trees are not going to attack you – there is no need of any defense. To be vulnerable to life as such, to existence as such, you will be getting these moments continuously. Soon it will become your very life.

    Wherever you are – at home, at work, or on the way between the two – you can use the presence of any sound, any noise, as an opportunity to move inside to a space of inner silence and stillness.”

    -Osho: The Invitation, #14
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    Osho has some interesting words. What say you Taiyaki?
  • Drink tea and take a nap.
  • Drink coca-cola and watch tv
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