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Question on Tibetan Buddhism and Homosexuality

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  • thanks.
    as an experiment, a group of friends are seceding from the "host country". the constitution is simply "ahimsa".

    any practice, any precept, any action, and so on shouldn't contradict ahimsa. if it clearly does, it can be discarded. and maybe because of how it contradicts this basic principle, homophobia is increasingly becoming a "difficult sell" in more countries.
  • thanks.
    as an experiment, a group of friends are seceding from the "host country". the constitution is simply "ahimsa".

    any practice, any precept, any action, and so on shouldn't contradict ahimsa. if it clearly does, it can be discarded. and maybe because of how it contradicts this basic principle, homophobia is increasingly becoming a "difficult sell" in more countries.
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  • Vincenzi, thats why you should trust yourself. I agree with you on homophobia. This is what it means when it says that the world is poisoned by ignorance.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    homophobia is against ahimsa, which is (or should be) integral in any type of buddhism. what's with the hostilty to simple preferences? that's not ahimsa!
    I like this, Vincenzi--it keeps everything simple. This is the 2nd time you've posted regarding using ahimsa as the basis to the precepts. If everyone practiced this basic principle, it seems that a lot of questions would be answered, things would simply fall into place. :)
    I second that. What they said, both of them.

    Third carries the motion.......D

  • These are all very enlightening views! My only thought is that through the many countless aeons of cyclical rebirth we had to have been reborn as a woman at least once. One must not say, because I feel such a way that I fit into this box. We must realize that our bodies are merely a vessel for a much greater force that does not answer earthly names or identities and supersede the context which is "gender"
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    My only thought is that through the many countless aeons of cyclical rebirth we had to have been reborn as a woman at least once. One must not say, because I feel such a way that I fit into this box. We must realize that our bodies are merely a vessel for a much greater force that does not answer earthly names or identities and supersede the context which is "gender"
    If everyone practiced this, the world would be a very different place, and much more hospitable to women.
  • "isn't tibetan buddhism the "less buddhist" because of being a bön/buddhism hybrid?"

    In that case buddhism is dead. Because its been 2500 years. I think India and Sri Lanka or wherever have also had changes.
    Buddhism died out in India. In order to survive, it adapted to Chinese and Tibetan culture. It also entered the Inner Asian desert oasis civilization of the Indo-Europeans (Tocharians), resulting in the spectacular cave paintings at Dun Huang and other locations, mixing a bit with Greek culture during Alexander the Great's time. That's Buddhism; always on the move, always morphing.

    I am not sure where you get the idea that Buddhism in India 'died out'.

    Tibet had established and respected Buddhism teachers bought in from India - Atisha being one of the most famous. There were a number of other than followed at various times.

    Certainly Buddhism suffered when Islam invaded India but as far as I am aware it did not 'die out'.
  • (It's frustrating to see that there are new posts on a topic only to find that they're not on the topic, IMHO anyway...)
  • edited March 2011
    Many sources on the history of Buddhism that I've read say Buddhism died out in India after it got established in Tibet. But later, it was revived, or reintroduced.
  • I think you should think about what YOU want rather than if you are an 'official buddhist'.. Being an 'official buddhist' is of no value. You don't even get a secret decoder ring or x-ray glasses.
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  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    (It's frustrating to see that there are new posts on a topic only to find that they're not on the topic, IMHO anyway...)
    Agreed.
    We're not discussing the past and present existence of Buddhism in India.
    The topic is Tibetan Buddhism (Not to be confused with The Dalai lama) and homosexuality.
    Steer it back, please. Thanks.

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