Does Buddhism claim to know in a singular Christian like Creator?

FreeofwantWdumean

PS. If you don't believe in a creator? Where do you think everything came from? lol

SherabDorje

No.

No one really knows where everything came from, and knowing that is not conducive to Buddhist practice. It's what we call an "imponderable".

I suggest you do some basic reading on Buddhism. That may help a lot.

Seeker567

The buddha listed this as one of the "unanswerable questions". He said focus on the here and now, because pondering those things will not help you become enlightened, and therefore, you will continue to suffer.

Jeffrey

My understanding is that there are two truths. Relative and ultimate..

Relative is that everything is created by MULTIPLE causes and conditions. When you realize ultimate truth you are liberated from a self that is failing and little poor me. That is like realizing you are in your shoes and your shoes serve a purpose, but all the drawbacks like being annoyed tying the laces or having to get new shoes.. Thats all in the head?

I think ultimate truth says the universe is created from the present moment! Always.

Roger

No.
No one really knows where everything came from, and knowing that is not conducive to Buddhist practice. It's what we call an "imponderable".

Yup! You hit the nail on the head SherabDorje. I don't get it. Why humans are soooooo arrogant (or stubborn? or ridiculous? or so-childish-you-just-have-to-love-them?) They just can't live without pondering the imponderable! Oh, I'm not picking on you FreeofwantWdumean. You asked a good question.

It's like humans get the definition of "imponderable" but they do it anyway. I gotta conclude they do it to deceive themselves and/or manipulate other less-informed humans.

AFAIK? "You can't explain skyscrapers to ants." I learned that in second grade. It's a fact. Why should it NOT apply to humans when it comes to HUUUUUGE "things" like how "IT" works? Or "Where" "IT" came from? Or "Who" "created" "IT?"

Theswingisyellow

Certainly not the jealous, angry, muderous,rape and slavery condoner found in the old testament. No offense to any one, but all of that is to be found in the bible and gods hands are pretty dirty. To paraphrase Jason why would I believe in the creation myth of a 3000 year old desert tribe? Why would I believe in somthing that is permenant, and unchanging when NOTHING in the universe is?
No offense and with much love-question what it is you believe.
Todd

Jeffrey

I wonder if God is a distortion of impermanence, Jesus a distortion of not-self, and the holy ghost a distortion of dukkha which is also seen in Satan.

Theswingisyellow

I wonder if God is a distortion of impermanence, Jesus a distortion of not-self, and the holy ghost a distortion of dukkha which is also seen in Satan.

I like it:thumbsup:

Talisman

I wonder if God is a distortion of impermanence, Jesus a distortion of not-self, and the holy ghost a distortion of dukkha which is also seen in Satan.

The only parallel I see with Satan is Mara the tempter. Who is only seen as a symbol for the many forms of desire, hatred, and folly.

The "creation" of the universe is a not something that happened in the distant past. It is happening right now at all times. Recognize the beauty of it's endless blooming and the tragedy of its constant demise.

Dazzle

PS. If you don't believe in a creator? Where do you think everything came from? lol

Hi FreeofwantWdumean,

The Buddha said :


"So, Malunkyaputta, remember what is undeclared by me as undeclared, and what is declared by me as declared. And what is undeclared by me? 'The cosmos is eternal,' is undeclared by me. 'The cosmos is not eternal,' is undeclared by me. 'The cosmos is finite'... 'The cosmos is infinite'... 'The soul & the body are the same'... 'The soul is one thing and the body another'... 'After death a Tathagata exists'... 'After death a Tathagata does not exist'... 'After death a Tathagata both exists & does not exist'... 'After death a Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist,' is undeclared by me.

"And why are they undeclared by me? Because they are not connected with the goal, are not fundamental to the holy life. They do not lead to disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, calming, direct knowledge, self-awakening, Unbinding. That's why they are undeclared by me.

"And what is declared by me? 'This is stress,' is declared by me. 'This is the origination of stress,' is declared by me. 'This is the cessation of stress,' is declared by me. 'This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress,' is declared by me. And why are they declared by me? Because they are connected with the goal, are fundamental to the holy life. They lead to disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, calming, direct knowledge, self-awakening, Unbinding. That's why they are declared by me.

"So, Malunkyaputta, remember what is undeclared by me as undeclared, and what is declared by me as declared."

(MN 63)

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.063.than.html


Kind wishes,

D.

federica

Sorry, closing this. Trust me, it's probably for the best....As Sherab suggested, do some research, Free.