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Primacy Of Man

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  • we come to nirvana by samsara.

    most seekers of truth have had hard lives. the suffering is our greatest teacher. the suffering brings us onto the path.

    in each moment, reality is asking us. are you allowing everything to be? even the suffering? or are you reacting against or for it? acceptance of both the good and the bad. that is true freedom.

    the mind sees problems and seeks solutions. the mind wants reality to change. but reality just is as it is. existence is as it is. thunderstorms happen. destruction happens. life happens as well.

    samsara and nirvana are the same thing. but when you have a mind, they are seen as quite different.
  • there is no rollercoaster other than the rollercoaster in our minds.

    play with that one.

    much love guys.
    is ''rat race'' too just in the individual mind?


    i would assert that everything is mind. everything.
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    there is no rollercoaster other than the rollercoaster in our minds.

    play with that one.

    much love guys.
    Taiyakis right, there really is no inside or outside, there is nothing to jump off. You create this rollercoaster called samsara, it's the worlds "A" ticket ride

  • we come to nirvana by samsara.

    most seekers of truth have had hard lives. the suffering is our greatest teacher. the suffering brings us onto the path.

    in each moment, reality is asking us. are you allowing everything to be? even the suffering? or are you reacting against or for it? acceptance of both the good and the bad. that is true freedom.

    the mind sees problems and seeks solutions. the mind wants reality to change. but reality just is as it is. existence is as it is. thunderstorms happen. destruction happens. life happens as well.

    samsara and nirvana are the same thing. but when you have a mind, they are seen as quite different.


    I am so sorry, because it seems I have kidnapped this tread to seek some answers for myself.


    Last Question.

    Why has ‘’suffering’’ become a platform to advancement?
    This whole method is ‘’immoral’’.



    I understand this when it comes to the universe and evolution. It is so mechanical that this might be the only way. However, IF there is something else or ‘’God’’ / in a very symbolic and general way of using this word/ - why to choice evil to drive us?

  • there is no advancement. we already are perfect. we're just under the delusion that we need to advance.

    morality only exists when you place the idea called morality with immorality. concepts themselves are only given power because we place meaning on them. they are baseless and are overlaid on top of reality. our attachment to ideas/concepts prevent us from actually experiencing reality as it is. the ego wants this and that to happen. the ego keeps seeking this and that. the ego wants good and evil. the ego wants there to be advancement.

    see the thing is reality for most people is ego. it's all mind. mind is ego.

    our true nature is love. but there isn't anyone that is love. it is just love. love, truth, reality. these are all the same thing.

    there is objective reality and we overlay our subjectivity onto it forgetting that it is objective. not only that, we construct a self by grasping onto concepts. in reality, we are the reality. we are perfect. we overlay everything on perfection.

    so the point of seeking is to become aware of that perfection again. is to wake up to our inherent perfection, which is the nothingness/emptiness/fullness within us and consequently since "we" don't exist, it is everywhere and everything as well.

    the real question is. what is preventing you from seeing your true nature as it is. because you already are complete. and right now most of us have this view that we aren't. thus we seek.

    what is preventing you from seeing reality? and thats why there is the 8 fold path, etc. to get you to see what you already are.
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    people want to be happy.
    people have suffering
    people want to end that suffering, so we look for the truth.
    God doesn't create evil or suffering, you do. Things are just as they are it is you that puts labels and concepts on things, trying to make sense of the world. Don't make good or bad, darkness or light but see what is between these dualistic concepts, be aware of the world as it is.
  • CloudCloud Veteran
    Wanting to be happy and never finding lasting happiness, that is what drives us to seek the peace of Nirvana, a peace that requires no further seeking. Blatant suffering is a part of this, but really our entire lives are one form of suffering or another; even the desire to be happy is suffering, because why are we not happy already? To get beyond this, we have to see the world clearly as it is; we have to see ourselves clearly as we are, because we are just a fleeting moment, a series of choices, and then it passes on to our children.
  • andyrobynandyrobyn Veteran
    edited March 2011
    We make our choices based on available options.
    In rich countries, you can choose to be vegan if you can afford it.
    There are some tribal people in India whose only
    source of protein are rats.
    You cant change the world.
    But you can make a personal choice. I choose to offer vegetarian food
    to monks.
    We are the choices we make ... not for others to judge, or others to judge us

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