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karma & rebirth/reincarnation
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A mandatory listen about everything for everyone:
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And for Buddha's sake (or, as we usually say, for God's sake) please don't start another thread about karma, rebirth, and incarnation.
It's up to you to prove Adyashanti's Buddhist credentials. Don't make us do your homework for you.
I personally wouldn't be so bold as to ever make such sweeping statements, about such matters.
I have to say, I found his voice soporific.
Which need not be a good thing.....
"soporific" I had to look that up, thanks for the new word
adya comes from a zen buddhist background. he talks about spirituality and such.
i like his no bullshit approach to spirituality, but i can see how many people don't like him.
eh whatever works for you.
Karma is a conventional observation like the sun rises in the east when really thats not true.
Karma can be used to free us from other wrong views such as extreme eternalism and nihilism. Karma may make us act morally and remember others. Etc..
and yes most complex question are usually answered with it doesn't matter. a good teacher will teach you to keep less beliefs and know less.
metta.
The obvious and observable moral, mental, social, spiritual causal interconnections and feedbacks:
If we make happy actions there will be more happy in the world.
If we make happy thoughts there will be more happy inside.
Equally for the opposites; all is interdependent.
Make more happy!
[sop-uh-rif-ik, soh-puh-]
–adjective
1. causing or tending to cause sleep.
2. pertaining to or characterized by sleep or sleepiness; sleepy; drowsy.
"...everything for everyone....?
I personally wouldn't be so bold as to ever make such sweeping statements, about such matters.
i don't like his bull$#it approach to spirituality, but i can see how many people like him.
to me, there were times he said excellent things, such as giving up the quest for becoming to find the still point in the wheel
but then he got overly samsaric again, as though when the mind finds this freedom of complete acceptance, it is going to carry on living in the ordinary way it always did, with all of its various indulgences
i really liked some parts of the talk...they were well expressed
but because the speaker is attached to his audience, not wishing to challenge them, he maintains the intangible rhetoric
what rhetoric?
kind of like telling the audience, who still delight in the waves of samsara, that there is a way they can swim in the surf, in the waves of the ocean, when they have not even learned to swim in still water, in a swimming pool
regards
Much of what I've read by him has been honestly pretty standard. In fact much of his teachings seem to be directed to an audience that is less-familiar with the Buddha's ministry and doctrine. He's trying hard to incorporate the teachings into modern western mentality.
I do like a lot of his ideas. In particular, one my favorite of his policies is that he has removed the weighty precepts for women and presented the mindfulness trainings to address contemporary issues regarding drug use, environmental concerns, etc.
I haven't had a chance to meet with any members of the order of interbeing so I don't have much on-hand experience with his teachings, but as far as I know he isn't very "radical" at all.
No I havent read that one. I'm reading "Understanding the Mind" right now. It's a commentary on Vasubhandu's "50 verses on the nature of consciusness." I'm too early in the book to give a real review, but so far it isn't nearly as complex as the Amazon reviews made it seem. It might just be that I have spent so much time studying this material that much of it is just reading other people perspectives on all the same concepts.
I've been trying to find some more advanced literature regarding the incorporation of the Bodhisattva ideal into a contemporary lay practice without oversimplification or "dumbing down" of traditional concepts and beliefs.
I might have to write my own book ... after more extensive practice and experience of course.
Buddhism is a path of reasoning or wisdom.
From reasoning or understanding comes morality.
From morality comes the stabilising of the mind.
When the mind is stable, it can penetrate & bear fruit from higher wisdom, about impermanance, the elements, etc
Adyashanti is trying to impart the ultimate truth that life is just nature's elements (dhamma dhatu) but without the foundation of karma
When moral or karmic views are straightened out, this is much of the hard work done
Not trying to conform to moral rules or precepts but abiding in them via understand their beneficial purpose
Still. It was quite a good talk. The essense of what was said was valuable. (imo)
Welcome back, Thickpaper.
The video didn't do anything for me I'm afraid - and I couldn't connect with the voice and the staged pauses. Sorry.
I guess I should have not said 'mandatory' in order to serve the goal of sharing with open-minded people. Not that I was really serious about it, but words like this can really work against the open-mindedness. The reactions are like "Who does this guy think he is saying I HAVE TO listen to this crap?!?!?!?".
In actuality just wanted to share a great find. ^^
And if anyone is interested of more talks of Adyashanti, you can find some latest ones uploaded by some guy here - http://www.youtube.com/user/evignektar
Another one I would suggest would be this. It's a quite humorous one.
Plus peoples attitude and beliefs can change with better knowledge and experience, so its good to keep renewing these threads, so you can state if your opinion is the same or if it has changed, not to mention its good for newbies who want to ask other Buddhists.
With Metta
Anyway, I take this as a "no", it's not time yet to rehash. :rolleyes: Well, don't say I didn't warn you, zid (et al).
people comment.
nothing wrong with talking about the same thing again.
If you feel that you have said your piece, you can
always stay on the sideline.
Proceed at your own risk if you want to start a thread, you guys. Don't say we didn't warn you.
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With Metta