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Rebitrth, Karma, Reincarnation you have to belive?
You're welcome. But do not count on it being accurate. :dunce:
the original PTS translation is as follows, so my translation was close. I have concerns about the word 'anekepi'. 'Aneka' = 'myriad' but the suffix i cannot find.
Thus with mind composed, quite purified, quite clarified, without blemish, without defilement, grown soft and workable, fixed, immovable, I directed my mind to the knowledge and recollection of former habitations: I remembered a variety of former habitations, thus: one birth, two births, three..., four..., a hundred..., a hundred thousand births and many an eon of integration - disintegration; such an one was I by name, having such and such a clan, such and such a color, so was I nourished, such and such pleasant and painful experiences were mine, so did the span of life end...
Do you have psychic powers to know Guy has blind faith in Ajahn Brahm?
I haven't objected to scriptures by the way I just asked if you can demonstrate that you do not have blind faith in scriptures in a way that Guy has failed to demonstrate that he does not have blind faith (supposed on your part).
Can you show me where I have belittled and slandered you? What does censure mean and have I done this?
If I have belittled and slandered you (and censrued) then haven't you also belittled Guy? I will apologize to you if you apologize to Guy. Thanks.
Do you have psychic powers to know Guy has blind faith in Ajahn Brahm? I will apologize to you if you apologize to Guy.
hi J
i already acknowledged to Guy I do not know his mind. so if GuyC does not have faith in Ajahn Brahm & Prof Stevenson, then I suppose he does not if he says so
but generally, we only do & recommend things we have faith in. like you did not observe DD recommending to study Nargajuna
i have not sought an apology from you nor see any need to apoogise to Guy. Guy has made enough posts here to give the impression he has faith in Ajahn Brahm & Prof Stevenson
if I misperceived that then that is obviously forgivable in the circumstances
Ok DD, I missed the part where you acknowledged, and I do apologize. I am grumpy and I took it out on you. Sorry to the forum for creating a negative environment.
I feel genuine debate on this issue can be informative.
Sure. But you do not seem to be debating Spiny. Instead, just disagreeing and asking circular questions. The context of what I said is self-evident. You are moving my post out of the context.
You seem to find it difficult when people disagree with you, or don't get the points you're trying to make. Which is a shame because you have some interesting things to say. Which post was I moving out of context?
Can you skip Rebitrth, Karma, Reincarnation or at least make different interpretation of them. And concentrate on meditation, desire and other very practial parts of buddhism?
I really find a hard time triying to belive in those concepts(Rebitrth, Karma, Reincarnation).
Also im a combination of atheist/agnostic and deist/phanteist
Like Spiny said, the idea is development and learning, so as you practice you will quite naturally come to know what these concepts mean. If they are foreign or strange to you now, it is quite alright to put them aside for now (without forming conclusions one way or another) and just keep practicing. Which is what Buddhism is about anyway.
Can you skip Rebitrth, Karma, Reincarnation or at least make different interpretation of them. And concentrate on meditation, desire and other very practial parts of buddhism?
I really find a hard time triying to belive in those concepts(Rebitrth, Karma, Reincarnation).
Also im a combination of atheist/agnostic and deist/phanteist
Just follow your own heart and don't believe anything because someone else says so. Be true to yourself and try to stay open. Practice the methods which seems reasonable to you. You have to be your own guru.
I've noticed some members here have said their lamas are ok if one doesn't accept rebirth right away. I think it would be an interesting poll to take of lamas. I plan to do that someday, just for fun.
Also, I think Batchelor was speaking just from his own experience. He apparently didn't run into or look for lamas who were more flexible on that point. His book was about his personal experience, not a scientific study of the field of TB and Zen teachers. But I think that would be a worthwhile study to do.
My teacher, and previous teachers whom I have actually studied and spent one to one time with, have not required me to believe anything ... what has become evident to me, over time and through practice and instruction is consistent with the teachings.
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However, your objections to scripture demonstrates without doubt your mind has not comprehended them.
Best you stick to guru emails rather than attempt to censure, criticise, belittle & slander those who have taken the time & effort to study.
I haven't objected to scriptures by the way I just asked if you can demonstrate that you do not have blind faith in scriptures in a way that Guy has failed to demonstrate that he does not have blind faith (supposed on your part).
Can you show me where I have belittled and slandered you? What does censure mean and have I done this?
If I have belittled and slandered you (and censrued) then haven't you also belittled Guy? I will apologize to you if you apologize to Guy. Thanks.
i already acknowledged to Guy I do not know his mind. so if GuyC does not have faith in Ajahn Brahm & Prof Stevenson, then I suppose he does not if he says so
but generally, we only do & recommend things we have faith in. like you did not observe DD recommending to study Nargajuna
i have not sought an apology from you nor see any need to apoogise to Guy. Guy has made enough posts here to give the impression he has faith in Ajahn Brahm & Prof Stevenson
if I misperceived that then that is obviously forgivable in the circumstances
all the best :mullet:
Jeffrey :rant:
Which post was I moving out of context?
Spiny
Like Spiny said, the idea is development and learning, so as you practice you will quite naturally come to know what these concepts mean. If they are foreign or strange to you now, it is quite alright to put them aside for now (without forming conclusions one way or another) and just keep practicing. Which is what Buddhism is about anyway.
Best wishes,
Abu
Practice the methods which seems reasonable to you. You have to be your own guru.
Spiny