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Ms Anthony Guilty If At All Of what?

ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
edited July 2011 in General Banter
Is she guilty of murdering her daughter? Or is she guilty of manslaughter? Or is she guilty of child molestation? Or is she guilty of a combination? Or is she not guilty at all?

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  • Here in the USA, the principle is "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt". I don't think the prosecution has shown beyond a reasonable doubt who killed the child or how, or strictly speaking, that the child didn't die accidentally somehow. So strictly speaking, I don't think the prosecution has met the burden of proof. It's a very circumstantial case.

    That doesn't mean that it doesn't stink to high heaven- just that they haven't proven enough.

    This must mean that the coverage has reached as Thailand. :eek2:
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Hadn't heard of this I never watch tv. I think even if technically there is no proof she murder somehow she has to account for concealing the thing.
  • I think its very likely she is guilty. Kids dont just disappear and if they cant explain what happened without making up a bunch of things for me its beyond reasonable doubt she murdered her child.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I don't get why this lady/trial is so big?
  • edited July 2011
    I don't get why this lady/trial is so big?
    She did not report her child missing for 31 days. That's just for starters. The body was found very suspiciously near to the family home, and the remains had duct tape across the mouth and nose.

    So piece it all together and you have a mother going to trial for the alleged murder of her 2-year old child. The suspicion is that she did it because she wanted to be a party girl instead of having to stay home with a child.

    Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Anthony

    This is, of course, not to mention the American public's yearning for drama. But like I said above, apparently people are watching this from as far away as Thailand. Or at least Tom is.
  • I must be one of about ten people in the US who has no idea who this person is or any of the details of the case. I happened to catch a couple of minutes of the non-stop "coverage" of the trial in the break room the other day, and I just don't get it. Apparently the woman is accused of murdering her child. Why does this require the nation to stop and fix its attention on it? I don't get the fascination. Let justice take its course and move on. The rest is just ogling. I have much better things to do with my time and energy.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I don't get why this lady/trial is so big?
    She did not report her child missing for 31 days. That's just for starters. The body was found very suspiciously near to the family home, and the remains had duct tape across the mouth and nose.

    So piece it all together and you have a mother going to trial for the alleged murder of her 2-year old child. The suspicion is that she did it because she wanted to be a party girl instead of having to stay home with a child.

    Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Anthony

    This is, of course, not to mention the American public's yearning for drama. But like I said above, apparently people are watching this from as far away as Thailand. Or at least Tom is.
    Thanks!
    I see.
    It's insane because it's on every channel. That is when I turn the T.V. on.

  • edited July 2011
    Yes to both Mountains and Leon. I'm really getting my fill of it. I'm a news junkie but I can do without this one. I just sort of take note of it while I'm watching the news, but it shouldn't be getting this much coverage. It's just more soap opera stuff to me.
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    :Yawn: Isn't there a boy floating away in a mylar ballon somewhere I can watch? :-/
  • its also popular because the trial is being televised. I dont know why or how they determine if cameras can be in the trial but because they are allowed it makes it a lot more entertaining when you can watch ppl testify.

    Im not a big fan of courtroom drama, but this one is pretty interesting. But I agree with the sentiment, holy crap, they can still talk about other things on the news.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited July 2011
    Theres going to be a reality show next about jail or lethal injection *sigh*

    I'd probably vote guilty. I mean what is she saying? That her daughter drowned. Dead. And then somebody stole the body and put duct tape?
  • msnbc.com:

    The detail that could doom Casey Anthony

    'It's hard to come up with any explanation consistent with innocence for failing to report your child missing for 31 days,' legal expert says

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43639517/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

    Florida's law contains a different route to the death penalty.

    "If you prove that Casey Anthony committed aggravated child abuse or was in the process of committing aggravated child abuse — say, by putting tape on her mouth and chloroforming the baby in order to keep her quiet — that's enough to get you to murder in the first degree, if the baby dies as a result of those actions," Jones told TODAY.
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    So I hadn't heard about this until this post, but apparently she was just found not guilty.
  • At 1:15 PM USA Eastern Daylight time, which I believe is 6:15 PM London time, Ms. Anthony was found not guilty of any crimes directly related to her daughter.

    She was convicted of four counts of interfering with an investigation. The most prison time she could get for that is four years. It's conceivable that with credit for time already spent in jail, which is three years, she could walk away from the courthouse a free woman on Thursday.

    Over here, there's talk that if the prosecution had not pursued this as an automatic death penalty case, she may have been found guilty and done some prison time. But since the jury knew that a guilty conviction would automatically incur the death penalty, they may have relied more heavily on the principle "beyond a reasonable doubt".

    I myself think that either she or one of the grandparents or possibly all of them together may have been involved, but at this point it seems like no one will ever really know what happened except them.
  • AmeliaAmelia Veteran
    I don't get why this lady/trial is so big?
    She did not report her child missing for 31 days. That's just for starters. The body was found very suspiciously near to the family home, and the remains had duct tape across the mouth and nose.

    So piece it all together and you have a mother going to trial for the alleged murder of her 2-year old child. The suspicion is that she did it because she wanted to be a party girl instead of having to stay home with a child...
    There's also the "Belle Vida" tattoo that she got very shortly after.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Strictly speaking they did the right thing. A court of law isn't about gut feelings.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    At 1:15 PM USA Eastern Daylight time, which I believe is 6:15 PM London time, Ms. Anthony was found not guilty of any crimes directly related to her daughter.

    She was convicted of four counts of interfering with an investigation. The most prison time she could get for that is four years. It's conceivable that with credit for time already spent in jail, which is three years, she could walk away from the courthouse a free woman on Thursday.

    Over here, there's talk that if the prosecution had not pursued this as an automatic death penalty case, she may have been found guilty and done some prison time. But since the jury knew that a guilty conviction would automatically incur the death penalty, they may have relied more heavily on the principle "beyond a reasonable doubt".

    I myself think that either she or one of the grandparents or possibly all of them together may have been involved, but at this point it seems like no one will ever really know what happened except them.

    Thank you!
    This is ehh. wows.
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