"Meditation as an Escape" Jacque Fresco - Meditation

DaltheJigsaw

genkaku

Letting go is bullshit, he seems to say. But he suggests we have to let go of letting go. No one can walk into the woods and know the future, but he seems unwilling to concede that no one, hard-working or otherwise, can ever know the future.

Generally, he seems to be on a useful track (no one can 'bring out' what is not already there), but is unwilling to follow his own Yellow Brick Road as far as I can see.

Basically, he seems to be pissed off at the navel-gazing, airy-fairy aspects of spiritual life. Can't say as I blame him.

KarmaDondrupTashi

Maybe his navel is not very pretty.

Jeffrey

You let go of anxiety. You let go of false notions.. He's taking 'let go' quite literally. Also he is correct that meditation is not in isolation. I don't think any teacher says otherwise, all is relative correct? Meditation does not mean you turn your back on the world.

Jeffrey

"Shit and all they got is rap to listen to
I let them know we missin you the love is unconditional
Even when the condition is critical, when the living is miserable
Your position is pivotal, I ain't bullshitting you
Now why would I lie, just to get by? Just to get by, we get fly"

~Talib Kweli

GuyC

Oh no, the Venus Project! :rarr:

DaltheJigsaw

Oh no, the Venus Project! :rarr:

You think it's pure crap?

DaltheJigsaw

"Shit and all they got is rap to listen to
I let them know we missin you the love is unconditional
Even when the condition is critical, when the living is miserable
Your position is pivotal, I ain't bullshitting you
Now why would I lie, just to get by? Just to get by, we get fly"

~Talib Kweli

Veryy good song! I met Talib Kweli before he seemed interesting. I met Mos Def too.

DaltheJigsaw

You let go of anxiety. You let go of false notions.. He's taking 'let go' quite literally. Also he is correct that meditation is not in isolation. I don't think any teacher says otherwise, all is relative correct? Meditation does not mean you turn your back on the world.

Some meditation is to be outside of this world and some here and now.

Jeffrey

this and that exist in the space of awareness

jll

Well, Buddha 'navel-gazed' watching his breath, samadhi,
vipassana and nirvana. Its better to conquer your mind than a thousand armies.

GuyC

Hi Leon,

Oh no, the Venus Project! :rarr:

You think it's pure crap?

I think it sounds good on the surface - i.e. no money, no menial work, abundance of resources - sounds great!

...But...in this "resource based economy" who manages these resources? Who decides who gets what? No private property? I could easily see the management of this system become centralized into the hands of control-freaks and turn into an Orwellian nightmare.

Metta,

Guy

DaltheJigsaw

Hi Leon,

Oh no, the Venus Project! :rarr:

You think it's pure crap?

I think it sounds good on the surface - i.e. no money, no menial work, abundance of resources - sounds great!

...But...in this "resource based economy" who manages these resources? Who decides who gets what? No private property? I could easily see the management of this system become centralized into the hands of control-freaks and turn into an Orwellian nightmare.

Metta,

Guy

Right!
Great points!
Yea to get to that level, it would definitely take a lot.