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Intuition

ClayTheScribeClayTheScribe Veteran
edited November 2011 in Meditation
What role does intuition play in your meditation practice and daily mindfulness practice?

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  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Define "intuition", and give an example....?
  • I think of "intuition" as a combination of rational knowing and emotional knowing. I think it is definitely something to be mindful of.
  • Intuition is an experience in awareness. You can be talking about superstition. Or possibly a kind of knowing something without being able to nail it with words. For example 'the ball is on the table' is nailable. But having an intuition about a person it might be hard to place what you are going off of though you could say that 'it seemed x due to facial expression'. In the second case we have so many intuitions each moment and often we cling to just one. For example we might see the negative side of a person always and read those perceptions as definitive even though we are getting other signals that are more favorable.

    In my practice there is some intuition in deciding what would be good for the practice. Or just intuiting that you are spending to much time on other pursuits.
  • Where do you think intuition comes from?
  • Where does intuition come from--there's a good question to chew on awhile, and debate! But are you talking about intuition about oneself in meditation, or intuition about others and the world? Those are two different topics.

    Some of what we call intuition may come from our picking up subtle cues and information, and putting it together in our subconscious mind. Some comes from an unconscious reading of other people's energy fields and/or a subtle mind connection, if it's true that mind has non-local properties. Some may come from a tuning-in to ourselves and different levels of ourselves or our mind. It's a mysterious thing, isn't it? I like the direction in which this discussion is headed. :)
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    There's a story of a veteran firefighter who had a bad feeling while working on the roof of a building that was on fire. He had all his guys get off and a little later the roof collapsed. Seems like maybe some kind of premonition? After reflecting on it he realized that his feet felt a little warmer than they should. His experience and gut told him that the situation was dangerous even though the thought never came to his concious mind.

    On a gut level we're often able to make use of our knowledge and experience in a way that doesn't reach our concious mind. Learning how to properly listen to this is tapping into our intuition.

    There's also many anecdotes of people who have struggled with a problem for a while with no results. Then when they let go, either take a break or at night in their sleep, the answer suddenly just occurs to them.

    Here's a link to a good public radio interview with an author and science blogger that studies how we make these unconcious decisions.
    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/10/24/midmorning1/
  • intuition is choiceless awareness. it is the intelligence of the body. it is listening to reality.

    when one is free from thoughts. one can actively engage with other faculties. the eyes or non verbal. or the mind or non conceptual thoughts. how about feelings that are just non conceptual sensations.

    when no story or clinging of experience occurs, then everything becomes utterly the same and pure.


    but like all things.

    it doesn't arise from somewhere, nor do you create it.
    dependently arisen! staying for a moment and then ceasing.
  • The body is taking in information all the time, via all the senses, but the mind filters out some of that input, so our brains don't overload. But the brain is still registering the information. If we're lucky, as in the case with the firefighter, the brain prods us to act on that subconscious info, and we all it "intuition". Good posts, taiyaki.
  • I really am greatful for my level of intuition. Things occur to me on a daily basis, most of the time trivial matters, but sometimes it can help to get out of a terrible situation or avoid it for that matter. I do not think it is something that can be taught, intuition is within everyone, just at degrees.

    With regards to mindfulness and buddhist practice, I have never really contemplated how the two merge. A lot of wisdom comes from simple observation, sitting and observing our world with the 6 sensory doors. Personally not being a good meditator to say the least, maybe in deep meditations your intuition becomes stronger, I do not know...
  • Like art it is already in you. Just gotta rediscover.
  • I have discovered what I think intuition is and it's hard to explain in words. The closest word I have is God, however not the sentient being most religions talk about. It's the energy of the universe. All matter is energy vibrating at a certain rate. I think this energy comes from the pure energy that is everything in which there is no sense of linear time and everything is happening at once. All the knowledge of the universe is embodied in that energy, which is pure love and light. I imagine when one becomes enlightened they at least touch it or are touched by it. I think the reason people conceive of it as God, as a being with feelings and tempers and wants and desires, is due to our limited mental capacity to conceptualize All That Is. That's why I believe my intuition comes from there because it contains all the answers and knows no time so what I have a strong feeling is going to happen and then happens has already "happened" before I get there. I should also say that I was an atheist for many years until fully accepting and practicing Buddhism, so I struggle very much with these realizations. However I haven't done as much sitting as I imagine a lot of you have. Most of this realization has come to me during my day not sitting after my reiki work. I realize Buddhism is nontheistic and God is largely shunned in how it manifests in the Western world, or at least in one's practice. The way I relate that pure love energy to my practice is with interconnectedness, realizing every living thing comes from that (God, etc.), so to destroy or injure someone is to injure myself and everyone I care about. I do believe my mindfulness practice has led me to better listen to my intuition, which knows things I possibly couldn't know of beforehand like when I'm traveling to somewhere I haven't been like I was today. A few times when finding this place, I knew which street to turn on before I saw the sign (and my vision is poor). Or I'll be thinking something that seems random and I don't know why I'm thinking it and in a few minutes or hours something related will present itself. For now it just seems spooky but maybe there's a more rational explanation for it all I can discover while sitting.
  • Remember the assertion of inherency. It is implying a subtle divide, even if you assert connection.

    Everything is intimately here, not two. What is not here is merely abstraction.

    Just these six streams of conscious experience. Seperate yet interdependent. Infinite finites arising and falling!
  • Well I believe, and it is pretty much a near enough known fact that the universe is onme crazy place that has many phenomena going on we cannot see/understand. We only operate with out mere 5 senses, some people have hightened senses and maybe you could even class intuition as a sense. 300 years ago, there was only one known force, gravity. It is a very interesting topic of thought and discussion, and I think there needs to be some scientific research carried out-just for my personal curiosity :p
  • yes intuition is like an automatic pilot inside of you,you can rely on him and let him guide you..nothing to add all the comments are very interesting
  • I do not know what it is, however I know I have it, and tend to go with my "gut" with things that do not feel right. We have a thread on anti-socials (psychopaths), and there was a guy that I met who called me up, and was friendly enough - overly so, was my feeling, and my intuition told me something was amiss with him. I never did go hang out with him.

    Come to find out later he had been one of America's Most Wanted for robbing a bank,among his many other crimes. He did time. He's on two out of three strikes legally. He is totally anti-social, but very "charming" by many accounts. There is much more to this story,however I will spare you the details.

    I think intuition may depend on how you grow up to some extent, how we learn to read people by their body language,actions, or both. Intuition can border into paranoia depending on if there was abuse, for instance. It is then a trust issue.
    People who grow up in a more insulated environ have fewer reasons to "alert" if you will.

    So it could be chemicals like pheromones that people give off, body language, manner of speech,energy...just subtleties that we either consciously or subconsciously pick up on. Whatever it is I believe it to be valuable,personally.

    Not sure how or if it applies in meditation, however I think it is a form of mindfulness, listening to our "gut" instincts.
  • MindGateMindGate United States Veteran
    Is intuition similar to ESP?
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    edited November 2011
    Most serial killers and psychopaths normally have a sense of charm, even often to persuade a jury. They can change personalities like a switch. They also blend in with society very well, often having a family and looking 'average', having an average job (but often they cannot hold down one job for long), there are many traits. But the serial killer you may invision is probably not who it may appear to be when face2face.
  • Is intuition similar to ESP?
    developing concentration and mindfulness can bring about heightened senses.

    the knowing that occurs prior to conceptualization is what i would call intuition.
  • edited November 2011
    Is intuition similar to ESP?
    I think this is what we're trying to sort out here. Is it ESP, or is it subtle info the senses take in subconsciously, or is it some of both?

    The Institute of Noetic Science in CA did an experiment, scientifically controlled, that demonstrated that humans are able to foresee events in the near future. The researchers came to the conclusion that this is an innate ability. www.noetic.org There's a book advertised on the site: "Entangled Minds", that addresses aspects of intuition, non-local mind, etc., that looks pretty interesting.

    @ClaytheScribe Eloquent post. I basically agree.

  • hmmm. I have heard stories of people seeing into the future, on one documentary about the south east asia tsunami, a family was on holiday and one of the sons had 6 dreams the night before about a flood. They lost their other son in the tsunami the following day.

    I do not know what force it is that interacts with us, ESP whatever, but it is there and some people are more sensitive to it than others, just like some people have a stronger sense of taste or better vision. Each sense uses a different phenemonena in this world, eyes-light, ears-virbrations and so on.
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    Once when I was driving on the highway my attention was suddenly strongly drawn to a car a little bit in front of me. It wasn't that I just looked at it but there was a strong compulsion or feeling of some sort that drew me to it. A few seconds later it suddenly swerved and hit the retaining wall. It wasn't a serious accident and no one was hurt but it seems like a case where a few seconds ahead of time the conditions were set for a negative outcome and somehow I became aware of it. This seems more like some type of precognition to me though I noticed it was a younger girl so maybe my unconcious mind spotted her texting or in some way being distracted and it was just my intuition warning me to be careful.
  • edited November 2011
    That's always the question, isn't it? Is there a rational explanation for what appears to be precognition, or was it really precognition? The experiment done by the Institute of Noetic Sciences pretty well proves we're hard-wired somehow for precognition. Amazing story, btw.
  • MindGateMindGate United States Veteran
    As skeptical as I am, I *kind of* believe in ESP, mainly because I have experienced it first hand, and on a few occasions, it saved my life.
  • Sounds fascinating, MG. It might be going off-topic to share your stories here, but maybe it's worth setting up a thread for everyone to share their stories?
  • MindGateMindGate United States Veteran
    Sounds fascinating, MG. It might be going off-topic to share your stories here, but maybe it's worth setting up a thread for everyone to share their stories?
    Well, you could take initiative and make it. I'm not sure exactly how to word it.
  • I don't think I have any ESP experiences to share, though. But tell me first, what kind of ESP was yours? Like on the few occasions that it saved your life, was it premonitions, or something else? This'll help me get a handle on the topic/OP.
  • Sounds fascinating, MG. It might be going off-topic to share your stories here, but maybe it's worth setting up a thread for everyone to share their stories?
    Well, you could take initiative and make it. I'm not sure exactly how to word it.
    To the contrary, it's exactly on topic, that's what I was asking about. How do you interact with your intuition in your practice and your life? Whatever words you use to describe it.
  • MindGateMindGate United States Veteran
    My mother was driving me and my niece somewhere, and we came to an intersection. There were two stop-signs on the left and to the right of us, but none on the street we were on. Typically, my mom would just drive right on through. Though, one day, my mom just had a weird feeling about the road one day and stopped at the intersection before she proceeded. This was strange because she never did this before and claims she just had a gut feeling to stop. Just then, a taxi (strange that one was in my town) went flying by many, MANY miles over the speed limit. If my mom didn't stop, I would have been killed or greatly injured.

    Also, a bridge collapsed in my town many years ago. A lot of people I know apparently had dreams of it collapsing a week before it happened. My girlfriend's mom included. They kind of stayed away from it then.

    Not to mention little things happening, for example: one day I was taking my Xbox over to play with my girlfriend's nephew... and when I was about halfway there, I just had a weird feeling that I should check my backpack. I did, and some cords were missing. If I would have kept walking, I would have gotten there and had to have walked all the way back to get the cords. Strange that I just felt the need to double check my backpack when I was sure everything was there.
  • I'm mainly familiar with intuition in my massage practice. There's a very subtle tuning-in to the client's muscle tissue that happens. Sometimes the hands are drawn to work on an area that the client hasn't mentioned in the initial interview. So you ask, why am I working in this unusual area, that is outside the standard protocol? And the client invariably says, "Oh, THAT! I forgot to tell you, I had knee surgery a year ago...." It only works if you really focus intently on the client, rather than allow yourself to get distracted with conversation. You could call it a type of active meditation. There's walking meditation, some people do running meditation. There's also massage meditation. ;)
  • There are lots of different cognitive capabilities that different people develop as a NORMAL process of growing up. People with tendencies to think abstractly could in a sense be said to have very developed intuition from an early age......so, nothing to do with practice.

    Like empathy....could be described as intuition. So could inferring patterns and reading between the lines.
  • I have had a few ESP experiences, one that saved my life and a friends. With me they mainly occurred when I was under the influence of ecstasy, so some of you may say that it was me tripping or whatever, but ecstasy is not like that. In fact, I had more balance, stamania and hightened senses whilst on it.

    Anyway, I was with one friend and his dog walking through an old quarry that has an exstenive walk way around it. It is shrouded in bushes and trees throughout. We were both on MDMA (ecstasy) and we decided to climb over this wire fence without thinking about why it would be there. It was very dark as it was night time and summer, so the trees were full of leaves shunning the moonlight out. We walked ahead a few paces whilst my friends dog was running around somewhere. We were both side by side walking through short trees and bushes not able to see anything at all really and I suddenly just stopped and subsequently so did my friend next to me. I suggested that we should get out the flash light and so he pulled it from his pocket and we then realized that literally now less than one metre in front of us was a 40 or so foot drop. That put him into a state of shock for a while and I did not say anything for a couple of minutes as we turned around contemplating what nearly happened.
  • I have discovered what I think intuition is and it's hard to explain in words. The closest word I have is God, however not the sentient being most religions talk about. It's the energy of the universe. All matter is energy vibrating at a certain rate. I think this energy comes from the pure energy that is everything in which there is no sense of linear time and everything is happening at once. All the knowledge of the universe is embodied in that energy, which is pure love and light. I imagine when one becomes enlightened they at least touch it or are touched by it. I think the reason people conceive of it as God, as a being with feelings and tempers and wants and desires, is due to our limited mental capacity to conceptualize All That Is. That's why I believe my intuition comes from there because it contains all the answers and knows no time so what I have a strong feeling is going to happen and then happens has already "happened" before I get there. I should also say that I was an atheist for many years until fully accepting and practicing Buddhism, so I struggle very much with these realizations. However I haven't done as much sitting as I imagine a lot of you have. Most of this realization has come to me during my day not sitting after my reiki work. I realize Buddhism is nontheistic and God is largely shunned in how it manifests in the Western world, or at least in one's practice. The way I relate that pure love energy to my practice is with interconnectedness, realizing every living thing comes from that (God, etc.), so to destroy or injure someone is to injure myself and everyone I care about. I do believe my mindfulness practice has led me to better listen to my intuition, which knows things I possibly couldn't know of beforehand like when I'm traveling to somewhere I haven't been like I was today. A few times when finding this place, I knew which street to turn on before I saw the sign (and my vision is poor). Or I'll be thinking something that seems random and I don't know why I'm thinking it and in a few minutes or hours something related will present itself. For now it just seems spooky but maybe there's a more rational explanation for it all I can discover while sitting.
    Thanks @ClayTheScribe
    I do not believe your experience is individualised or rare, it happens and it seems there are enough beings in this world now who share this. Sounds like a journey, thankyou for sharing it.

    Namaste.
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