New Evidence - Higgs Boson - the "God Particle"

Bodha8

How do you feel that the eventual discovery may affect all of us. What could the scientific or religious aspects be.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/8953007/God-particle-why-Cern-scientists-have-been-using-the-Large-Hadron-Collider-to-look-for-it.html

Bekenze

I think dubbing the particle the "God Particle" gives some incorrect inflection.

But anyway:

But Dr Fairbairn warned that we should not get too carried away about the possible discovery because "it won't have any immediate implications, maybe in a few thousand years down the line."

person

I like to keep up to date on science but I have no idea what the significance of a particle that gives things mass is. I guess it would answer that question but beyond that I'm clueless.

ThailandTom

Well dark matter is everywhere and scientists are miffed to why the universe is made up mostly of sheer nothing. Maybe it is linked to this problem? To nick-name is the god paricle could be seen as a mistake but also not so. It depends what you define as 'god'. Einstein spoke about god frequently and I will always remember my physics teacher in secondary school saying that most scientists in the field of physics agree there is a god. But, it is not the notion of an all knowing creator entity.

taiyaki

there are no "things" just processes.
and even such processes are empty of inherent existence, thus unfindable and ungraspable.

how can you find something that is based on an infinite variety of causes & conditions?

unless you are talking about an atom itself. such atom would contain the whole of existence. but even if such atom did exist, it would be dependent on various causes/conditions. thus you cannot have an objective "thing". just infinite finites coming together to have this "perception" of wholeness.

grasp and you only grasp air.

ThailandTom

I guess scientists will continue and never get the answers they want in this field then. They should all be sent to zen school instead. :om:

taiyaki

ha maybe!

what they really need to do is to create a new science based purely on the subjective experience and consciousness.

it is basically what spirituality as a whole is all about. if only we had scientists to study the inner dimensions of consciousness itself.

thus the assumption that there is an objective world becomes shattered. there is a world, but it completely dependent on subject/object relationship.

science forgets that there is a subject that is aware of all of this. thus science misses the larger picture.

but slowly we shall see the change. more and more people are waking up to the fact that meditation and yoga do have real benefits.

off topic, sorry sorry!

B5C

I think dubbing the particle the "God Particle" gives some incorrect inflection.

THANK YOU!

Dandelion

I read that initially it was going to be called the goddamn particle because it was so elusive.....

Telly03

It's a never ending game of trying to determine what we are made of, and if we zoom in close enough, we will find the universe... we can only perceive macro or micro so far, which makes us feel we are a being in the middle of two ends. I don't believe there is an end either direction we look, it's all connected, and until we can prove this with science, we are compelled to keep looking for those ends.

Victorious

ha maybe!

what they really need to do is to create a new science based purely on the subjective experience and consciousness.

it is basically what spirituality as a whole is all about. if only we had scientists to study the inner dimensions of consciousness itself.

thus the assumption that there is an objective world becomes shattered. there is a world, but it completely dependent on subject/object relationship.

science forgets that there is a subject that is aware of all of this. thus science misses the larger picture.

but slowly we shall see the change. more and more people are waking up to the fact that meditation and yoga do have real benefits.

Exactly!!!

That is why the Dhamma is superior to science!

Buddhism is a much better base for science than science itself.


/Victor

Jeffrey

Dandelion

pineblossom

There is so much we don't know. The idea that we have 'all the answers' in this generation is somewhat pretentious.

The idea that heat is responsible for creating matter I think takes us on a new level.

DaltheJigsaw

I been following this for a few weeks now. Thanks for bringing this up!:)

Spaceless

About three thousand years ago, Buddha Sakyamuni had lectured a kind of ultimate fundamental constituent/particle named 'Linshitron' which constitutes the universe ultimately. It was somehow concordant with the limitation of matter in the up-to-date quantum theory. In this paper, we try to feature the substance of Linshitron and derive its mass from two hypotheses of the ultimate fundamental particle (UFP) and quantum speed under a realization that the infinity does not actually exist in the physical world. The mass of the Linshitron derived is ?4.184×10^(-47)kg which seems showing a real quantum. Hence we speculated that the UFP or Linshitron might be the origin of quantum function. We assumed that either the vacuum or the quantum field possesses intrinsically certain character of UFP mass, which functions as the basis of quantum world. Everything including the space-time can be profiled as quantized by using the UFP model.
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/BDLM/toModule.do?prefix=/search&page=/search_detail.jsp?seq=148859

DaltheJigsaw

About three thousand years ago, Buddha Sakyamuni had lectured a kind of ultimate fundamental constituent/particle named 'Linshitron' which constitutes the universe ultimately. It was somehow concordant with the limitation of matter in the up-to-date quantum theory. In this paper, we try to feature the substance of Linshitron and derive its mass from two hypotheses of the ultimate fundamental particle (UFP) and quantum speed under a realization that the infinity does not actually exist in the physical world. The mass of the Linshitron derived is ?4.184×10^(-47)kg which seems showing a real quantum. Hence we speculated that the UFP or Linshitron might be the origin of quantum function. We assumed that either the vacuum or the quantum field possesses intrinsically certain character of UFP mass, which functions as the basis of quantum world. Everything including the space-time can be profiled as quantized by using the UFP model.
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/BDLM/toModule.do?prefix=/search&page=/search_detail.jsp?seq=148859

Very interesting! Thank you!

B5C

Exactly!!!

That is why the Dhamma is superior to science!

Buddhism is a much better base for science than science itself.


/Victor

Bekenze

Exactly!!!

That is why the Dhamma is superior to science!

Buddhism is a much better base for science than science itself.

omg Haha. That is funny. You are joking, correct?

Victorious

Exactly!!!

That is why the Dhamma is superior to science!

Buddhism is a much better base for science than science itself.

omg Haha. That is funny. You are joking, correct?

No I am not really joking. Care to explain why you think I am?

/Victor