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saw 'the girl with the dragon tattoo'

AMHAMH
edited December 2011 in General Banter
I loved it, really. Okay a 3 hour movie but excellent. Of course I fell in love with the entire series of books before this and devoured them on my nook. I love the character of Lisbeth and it didn't hurt that my celebrity crush played the male lead (Daniel Craig, sigh) I have heard some critiques that it moved too slow, actually a nice change from the constant soundtrack and 45 minute explosion filled ending of most American films.

Warning for the faint of hear, there is a violent rape scene. I had read the books so I knew it was coming. I had to stand in the lobby for the duration of the scene. I often have to avoid certain sections of movies however.

Comments

  • I'm glad you posted that warning. I was ready to rush out and see it, based on your first paragraph.

    It's really not necessary for filmmakers to include graphic violence like that. They can convey that other ways.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    no, actually, it's central to the plot as it gives insight and motive to aspects of the character. It's something that makes you go "Ah, now I see why......"
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    Did anyone see the original Danish version? I really liked that series I'm curious as to how the remake compares.
  • The graphic violence did not bother me so much as the prolonged shot, in the film, of Bloomqvist's adopted cat being mutilated and killed. I rarely turn my head away at the movies, but had to for that sad shot. I know it was intended as foreshadowing of Bloomqvist ending up in Vanger's basement/torture chamber, but I still could have done without it.
  • I agree it was necessary, along with other random scenes which are vital to understanding a character who does not talk much. I am very picky about unnecessary violence, however if it would be too much it is important to know that ahead. The book is still deeper, but I do like the movie.

    I would love to see the Danish one, is it in Danish or Swedish? Anyone else see it.
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    I would love to see the Danish one, is it in Danish or Swedish? Anyone else see it.
    It's a trilogy. The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo, The Girl Who Played With Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornets Nest. I guess it is Swedish and not Danish.
  • I read the trilogy, so I am interested in all the movies. I know eventually they will make them all in English and I hope they stay with the less American blow up style. My son has netflix so maybe we can find the Danish ones.
  • All three films, I recall, are available (Swedish with subtitles) on the instant streaming (if you have that) on Netflix.
  • Ahh good, too bad Swedish is not one of the languages I wanted to learn. It would be good to hear, as a kid I wanted to learn Danish.
  • The graphic violence did not bother me so much as the prolonged shot, in the film, of Bloomqvist's adopted cat being mutilated and killed.
    Warning for the faint of hear, there is a violent rape scene.
    This sounds more like a horror film. I think I'll pass.

  • BrianBrian Detroit, MI Moderator
    I have heard from many multiple people (the kind of people who usually disagree on things), that universally agree: This movie should not have been remade as a film that panders to Americans. The original was fine, and the new one is crappy remake.

    I've not seen it, but I've heard the same exact opinion from a variety of people.
  • GuiGui Veteran
    The original was great. I won't be seeing the remake.
  • zombiegirlzombiegirl beating the drum of the lifeless in a dry wasteland Veteran
    I've seen the Swedish version and thought it was rather good. I wasn't exactly blown away by it, but I think these were more personal reasons.

    A. I wish someone would have warned me about the rape scene. I think in the Swedish version, it was done rather well though. I can't exactly remember, but I don't remember being too offended, like I was in The Hills Have Eyes which had a scene that was nearly 'erotic' involving brutal rape. I'm not against rape being shown in movies, because it does happen in real life and can be necessary to show. But a rape scene should not leave one feeling sexual (you'd be surprised how many rape scenes film the women as if they were porn stars, therefore adding an erotic nature). An effective rape scene should focus on the horror/humiliation/emotions of the character because that's what the point should be in being shown. The rape scene from Boys Don't Cry comes to mind here. But having said all that, I really just find myself avoiding movies with these scenes altogether because it puts me in some very negative headspace I don't enjoy. What did you think about the American version? As a whole, or as opposed to the Swedish version, if you'd seen it?

    B. I was bothered simply because my father, who is a big fan of the books, kept telling me about how Lisbeth is a lesbian and so I needed to see the movie/read the books. So when I do, I realize she's bisexual and was forced to have YET ANOTHER uncomfortable conversation with my father about what it means to actually be a lesbian. Ugh. Perhaps one day he will understand...
  • I have heard from many multiple people (the kind of people who usually disagree on things), that universally agree: This movie should not have been remade as a film that panders to Americans. The original was fine, and the new one is crappy remake.

    I've not seen it, but I've heard the same exact opinion from a variety of people.
    The originals were great, I don't want to ruin them by watching the remake!

  • I wil have to see the originals, I won't watch remakes of my faves like The Shining.
  • One of the more disturbing films I've ever seen (the original Swedish one). No need to see the remakes, thanks.
  • One of the more disturbing films I've ever seen (the original Swedish one). No need to see the remakes, thanks.
    Thanks for this, Mts. I think you and I have the same sensibilities re: movies.

    I used to live in Seattle, where the film festivals would cater to the Scandinavian population. The Scandinavian films were always oddly depressing. Now I'm in Santa Fe, NM, where the annual film fest always has a significant Tibetan-Native American-Indigenous People section. I'm a lot happier now. :)
  • zombiegirlzombiegirl beating the drum of the lifeless in a dry wasteland Veteran
    One of the more disturbing films I've ever seen (the original Swedish one). No need to see the remakes, thanks.
    Thanks for this, Mts. I think you and I have the same sensibilities re: movies.

    I used to live in Seattle, where the film festivals would cater to the Scandinavian population. The Scandinavian films were always oddly depressing. Now I'm in Santa Fe, NM, where the annual film fest always has a significant Tibetan-Native American-Indigenous People section. I'm a lot happier now. :)
    they say that scandinavians have one of the highest rates of depression/suicide due to the lack of light.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I cannot wait to see it with my girlfriend!:) Thank you for review!
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2012
    I have heard from many multiple people (the kind of people who usually disagree on things), that universally agree: This movie should not have been remade as a film that panders to Americans. The original was fine, and the new one is crappy remake.

    I've not seen it, but I've heard the same exact opinion from a variety of people.
    Ended up seeing David Fincher's remake of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo tonight. While I'm not a fan of remakes in general, as they tend to be shitter versions of an already decent film, this particular remake is good for what it is. In fact, I actually liked parts of this one better, especially the ending, which is closer to the novel than the original Swedish adaptation.

    Overall, it was well made and stayed relatively faithful to the novel. Daniel Craig's portrayal of Blomkvist is a bit flat, in my opinion; but Rooney Mara plays Salander well, which is the most important thing for me as her character makes the story. It wasn't incredible, but I wouldn't say that it was crappy, either. I rather enjoyed it and will probably see the other two if and when they come out.
  • LesCLesC Bermuda Veteran
    edited January 2012
    If for no other reason, the cat scene would keep me away.
  • I've seen the Swedish version as well. I thought it was good, I have no interest in seeing the American version though.
  • Invincible_summerInvincible_summer Heavy Metal Dhamma We(s)t coast, Canada Veteran
    *sigh*... I don't know why everyone considers the Fincher version to be a "remake" of the Swedish film. Why can't it be considered an English-language/audience "adaptation" of the original source material instead?

  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    *sigh*... I don't know why everyone considers the Fincher version to be a "remake" of the Swedish film. Why can't it be considered an English-language/audience "adaptation" of the original source material instead?

    Interesting question. I think it's mainly one of perception. For example, American cinema has a habit of making English language versions of successful foreighn films. There was recently a trend of making English versions of popular Japanese horror movies (e.g., The Ring, The Grudge, etc.), and I see the same thing happening with Swedish films (e.g., Let the Right One In, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, etc.). That said, I think you're right in pointing out that one can just as easily look at them as English-language adaptations of of common source material seeing as how many of them are based on foreign novels with films adaptation and not just foreign films, which I think is a more accurate way of looking at it when it's not merely just a conscious remake of a particular film on the part of the director.
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