Conversation between conscious identity and subconscious self

ImmersedOne

I think reality is a cooperative experience of interaction and conversation between our conscious identity and our subconscious self. What we consider to be the external reality is our subconscious communicating to us the truth or best representation of the natural result of your current sense of identity as it relates to your subconscious self. Our natural tendency is towards expansion, and expansion is best achieved when you are completely open to listening to what reality/subconscious is trying to communicate to you, while not being easily swayed by external influences.

When I say identity, I am referring to who you consider yourself to be, as it relates to your understanding of the world. When I say self, I am referring to your natural state of being, who you are without the limits inherent in concepts of self.

Your subconscious is always attempting to help you with your conscious development. It does this through people and circumstances that arise in your life. It tries to show you the truth of who you are, as it relates to your sense of identity in your reality. The less open you are, the less you will be able to hear what your subconscious is trying to tell you, which will render it difficult to rise above being trapped in habitual ego-driven thought patterns.The more open you are, the more you will realize that the answer is just to be yourself, and that the complications were created by your attempts to live up to some identity.

Jeffrey

Its only a mis-perception that our world is hum drum. Our mind which you can call unconscious or rigpa or whatever has a wisdom quality. The appearances in our mind are like a rainbow. Nothing is there in appearances and they are totally conditioned and nothing to hold onto. The solidity and hum-drum nature can be collapsed in a moment of opening and piercing clear nature of experience...emergent. This is the vivid nature of the rainbow.

Spaceless

reality is not a cooperative experience of interaction and conversation between our conscious identity and our subconscious self.

patbb

hello immersedone,

I think that you had some great train of thoughts in your life and you clearly seem to have been doing some internal exploration which is great!

I think reality is a cooperative experience of interaction and conversation between our conscious identity and our subconscious self.

if by "reality" you mean the unconscious and un-examined life then yes.

What we consider to be the external reality is our subconscious communicating to us the truth or best representation of the natural result of your current sense of identity as it relates to your subconscious self.

it would perhaps help to differentiate sense inputs from the influence on the sense inputs from our conditioned mind.

Our natural tendency is towards expansion, and expansion is best achieved when you are completely open to listening to what reality/subconscious is trying to communicate to you, while not being easily swayed by external influences.

listening, and seeing what the subconscious mind is communicating to us is important. Once one can see what how the subconscious mind operate,
Then we can begin to see just how much the subconscious mind tint and distort reality.
one can then begin to understand and see things for what they truly are, and begin to free himself from the enslaving conditioning.

Your subconscious is always attempting to help you with your conscious development.

Your subconscious is always trying to help you indeed, but help you by remembering things for you. A great big collection of conditioned emotional reactions and thoughts, in theory to make our life easier to live so we don't have to remember "i hate when this happen", we just have a feeling of hatred that appears... it is the animal part of us.
not helping your conscious development since naturally, the subconscious mind is just looking to add to and maintain our collection of conditioned reactions.

you may want to learn a bit about dependent origination, it will clarify certain things for you.

ThailandTom

@patbb thank you very much for the video. She really has spent a lot of time trying to find ways to teach the dharma so it can relate well to people. I have never looked at the 4NT's in the way she spoke about them, and the whole one cup of chi a day concept says a lot

patbb

@patbb thank you very much for the video. She really has spent a lot of time trying to find ways to teach the dharma so it can relate well to people. I have never looked at the 4NT's in the way she spoke about them, and the whole one cup of chi a day concept says a lot

glad you liked it, you should thank her then (her email is on the video page)
watch it all and do the writing on a piece of paper as well, i highly recommend it. A little homework which will benefit for a long time.

Zero

I'm not sure I understand what is meant by the conversation between conscious and subconscious or how this can then be defined as 'reality'... reality by definition exists independent of this?

You also say that our natural tendancy is towards expansion? Expansion of what? and what space are you expanding into? If there is expansion is there also contraction and what is the tendency there? and what does it mean I guess?

But then you say that expansion is most easily achieved when we are open to our subconscious but less open to external stimuli...? Do you mean by this that you advocate some form of throttling or mediation of the effect of the conscious or external? In which case are you not advocating distance from 'reality' in order to achieve it... seems like a paradox...

I find it difficult reconciling your final paragraph also - it seems to slip into various paradoxes with your previous statement... I'm not saying youre wrong - just that I think you use completely new definitions and I find it difficult to follow as an overall philosophy... very interesting though and has me pondering... now just have to work out if that is something I should not be easily swayed by or not!!!