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Pacifism in Skyrim

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  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    ...right next to a story about an Afghan immigrant family in Canada, found guilty of carrying out so called 'honour killings'....
    It's a strange and bizarre world where truth is stranger - and a whole lot less palatable - than fiction....
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    I like the last paragraph which seems like it could be a good game concept. Playing a war medic, trying to save lives instead of taking them.
  • zombiegirlzombiegirl beating the drum of the lifeless in a dry wasteland Veteran
    I like the last paragraph which seems like it could be a good game concept. Playing a war medic, trying to save lives instead of taking them.
    demetri martin had that idea... haha.



    on a side note, in my mmorpgs i usually played as a cleric... that's sorta the same thing, i suppose...
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    I think a cool game could be made with knights who fight not to the death?? Or with a wizard who finds peaceful solutions to puzzles. He could find ingredients for magic and reason out what spell to solve each puzzle. Kings Quest 3 was like this. For example you explored and then you would get stuck and have to roam until you found another piece of the puzzle. In KQ3 you were under the thumb of Mannanon the villain who adopted you. There was a puzzle of catching his cat and gaining cat hair. Then you found ingredients to make a cookie. Mannanon would sometimes materialize and punish you or even kill you. So it was an adrenaline rush to complete all the steps quickly with any moment he could appear.
  • ZeroZero Veteran
    Let's see how he behaves after he takes an arrow to the knee... ;)
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    Let's see how he behaves after he takes an arrow to the knee... ;)
    The meme is being abused.
  • BekenzeBekenze
    Let's see how he behaves after he takes an arrow to the knee... ;)
    The meme is being abused.
    It used to not be abused... until it took an arrow to the knee.
  • B5CB5C Veteran
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  • ZaylZayl Veteran
    I tried to play as a kindhearted cordial elder wizard type guy and did alright, I wasn't a pure pacifist though. When I could though I always used peaceful solutions with magic, for example calm spells or even the mass paralyze spells which leaves the people unharmed, just incapable of moving for a short period of time. I'd only use my lethal magic when no other solution was possible, or if it was against a foe that needed to be destroyed for the good of the world at large or if it was some sort of unliving construct or immortal being (steam centurions, atronachs/daedra, etc) and I viewed fighting undead opponents not as killing, but simply putting them to peace through extraordinary means.

    And as for an arrow to the knee... (Warning - foul language)
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    I don't get the 'arrow to the knee' stuff......is this an in-USA-joke or sumphin'.....?
  • SileSile Veteran
    GREAT thread! My girls and I have bandied this thought around for some time - starting a video game "children's revolution" of making it cool to choose the pacifist options! But maybe the revolution is already started. I can't wait to have them read this thread.
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    I don't get the 'arrow to the knee' stuff......is this an in-USA-joke or sumphin'.....?
    A great clip from "Know your Meme"



  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    .....what's a 'Meme'....?
  • ZaylZayl Veteran
    It's ok fed, everything will be alright. This is all just a dream.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Oh, I'm so glad.... where's my teddy.....? *quiverlip*.......
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    .....what's a 'Meme'....?
    How long have you been on the internet?

    :p
  • ThailandTomThailandTom Veteran
    I literally have no clue what is going on either ... lol
  • ZaylZayl Veteran
    I think that for me though, pacifism does not enter Skyrim at all, just as I don't view it as violent either. I have fun with it, I don't let feelings of aggression or anything rule me. It is just a game. The video below basically will show you everything Skyrim means to me, and how I play it. It is also darn funny, enjoi.

  • ZeroZero Veteran
    Deus EX has an achi for complete with no kills - hitman has always rewarded no kills (except the target who is inevitably evil and clearly deserves it)... on reddead you could knock people out and shoot guns out of hands... Batman knocks them out standard - prince of persia youre against demons and you reverse time so it never even happend - battlefield 3 you can make all your points spotting, driving, reammo, heal, spawn points, take flag or you can fly planes around aimlessly - surely killing the undead is an act of compassion? add in all the zombie games if you agree...

    There's lots of pacifist options out there... I take them for the achis and sometimes its just geeky as hell but still I cant help running random people down in GTA and laughing while I do it... go figure....
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited February 2012
    .....what's a 'Meme'....?
    How long have you been on the internet?

    :p
    Just because I don't know it makes me ignorant, not stupid.
    The length of time is immaterial.
    Men have been men all their lives, and they still don't wipe their drips up. :p back atcha....
  • zombiegirlzombiegirl beating the drum of the lifeless in a dry wasteland Veteran
    edited February 2012
    .....what's a 'Meme'....?
    How long have you been on the internet?

    :p
    Just because I don't know it makes me ignorant, not stupid.
    The length of time is immaterial.
    Men have been men all their lives, and they still don't wipe their drips up. :p back atcha....
    You know how people like their inside jokes... *shrugs*

    A meme is just an idea that circulates the internet. It could be a picture or a video or whatever. It's the kinda thing that they refer to as "viral" ..."the video of so-n-so went viral." Meaning tons of people saw it and are now aware of it.

    The whole 'took an arrow in the knee' joke came from NPCs(non-player-characters) in the game Skyrim saying, "I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee..." in excess throughout the game. It then became a joke where people would change it up to make it relevant to whatever topic is being discussed, "I used to be an internet noob, then I took an arrow in the knee..."
  • peyruckuspeyruckus
    edited February 2012
    Obviously the answer to this question will vary greatly from person to person: Is there any harm that can come from playing violent video games?
  • B5CB5C Veteran
    There is no harm playing violent video games. Ive DOOM back in like 3rd or 4th grade.

    The people you should worry is the people who cannot sence what is real or fantasy.
  • peyruckuspeyruckus
    @b5c Those are my thoughts on the subject, too. Thank you!
  • zombiegirlzombiegirl beating the drum of the lifeless in a dry wasteland Veteran
    Obviously the answer to this question will vary greatly from person to person: Is there any harm that can come from playing violent video games?
    I think that indulging a violent nature might have an effect on a small scale. I don't think that it will make anyone particularly violent, per se, but I do think it has a subtle effect, at least temporarily.

    For example, I notice in myself when I play a lot of zombie shooter games that I feel sort of 'twitchy' when out alone late at night. I notice a tree move in the wind and I'm like, "Holy crap! ...Oh. Just a tree." I think it's naive to say that what we watch/play doesn't effect us, not that I believe it is particularly long term.
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