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As being an American. Why do I feel like a lot of Americans want a theocracy?
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Dennis Terry Introduces Rick Santorum
"I don't care what the liberals say, I don't care what the naysayers say, this nation was founded as a Christian nation...There is only one God and his name is Jesus. I'm tired of people telling me that I can't say those words.. Listen to me, If you don't love America, If you don't like the way we do things I have one thing to say - GET OUT. We don't worship Buddha, we don't worship Mohammad, we don't worship Allah, we worship God, we worship God's son Jesus Christ."
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One of the ways we do things is to protest action by government that we don't agree with. We do like that way of doing things, so here we are, still here.
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-macon/sb-469-georgia-republicans-target-non-violent-protests-first-amendment-rights
It *is* true that a very, very tiny minority of very, very loud-mouthed pseudo-"Christians" on the far, far, far right exert a disproportionately gigantic influence over the GOP. That's clear. But they're a long way from representing even a sizable majority of self-described Republican voters.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/how-big-deal-hr-347-criminalizing-protest-bill
Sounds like a big asshole to me.
Procreation is between a man and a woman...a marriage, which is a legal contract has nothing to do with the other.
Yup, big asshole...hurry up November.
http://www.gsbcla.com/meet-the-staff/
A lot of pastors believe Muhammad was tricked to believe that Allah was the God of Abraham by the devil or just insane.
Even in Washington State, once you leave the city area and enter the rural areas of Washington. It's Jesus country.
Heck even Seattle, Washington is home of the Creationist: Discovery Institute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute
Thanks for the tip about WA State. I had no idea. It seems that wherever you find the timber industry, you find strong conservatism. Northern CA is like that, too. They're still felling redwoods. :bawl:
Creationism is the idea that God created Adam and Eve, and so forth. No science or evolution was involved. In its strictest form it would say that the 7 day scenario took place in 24 hour days, etc.
You see danger on the Right, but it is the people on the Right by and large who want the government to have less power in the economy, less power over personal decisions, and less power over the things we buy.
Most conservatives I know, religious and non-religious, want to see the government operate under its strict, enumerated powers, as stated in the Constitution. They don't care a whit for seeing a theocracy.
And not "control" who gets an abortion. But have nobody get an abortion. Think what you will of that.
And war in America has never been the domain of one side. Republican and Democrat administrations have all engaged in warfare and invasions.
Outlawing abortion (or anything) is a form of control.
Conservatives want to make abortion illegal again. If they can not. They put up jim crow style laws to fear and/or make it harder with red tape to get abortions.
You have a point. Both sides have been dominate in making war, but yet I don't see Republicans (other than Ron Paul) demanding we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan. I keep hearing from the GOP is to cut welfare and spend on defense.
Also I don't see Obama calling for War with Iran.
A great documentary from Al Jazeera:
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=72488&pageid=37&pagename=Page+One
If abortion is outlawed in the US, can you sit there and honestly, truly tell me with a straight face that no woman in the US will ever get an abortion again?
Because if you do, you're either unbelievably, profoundly ignorant, or you've got your head stuck so far down in the sand you can see China. Women have ****always**** had abortions, ever since the first medicine woman discovered the first herb that did the trick. And prior to 1973, LOTS of American women got abortions every single day. And prior to 1973 a LOT of them died from complications due to having to go to illicit places to get them illegally. I find it stupefying that any thinking person, let alone anyone with a scintilla of compassion for his fellow human beings, could wish that upon them. So whose life is worth more to you? An unborn embryo or a woman who could be your mother, your wife, your girlfriend, your sister, your cousin, or your neighbor? I lost a member of my family that way. I suspect you didn't. Otherwise I doubt you'd hold such a callous belief.
I just don't get it. And it's highly likely I never will.
IMO, KOB seems to fit mostly into the libertarian wing with a big cup of hawk thrown in. So I'm not that surprised to hear him say the people he knows are hands off.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/paul-pillar/americans-dont-want-war-6640
There are more than enough level-headed people in the country to prevent a theocracy; even if Santorum was president...*shudder*
When you stop to think about it, the conservatives want less government control, except when it's about an issue that is important to them (such as abortion and gay marriage).
And, conversely, liberals prefer more government control, except when it's about an issue that's important to them (such as gay rights and abortion).
Each side wants or doesn't want government control, depending on how it affects the issue in which they are interested.
I peg you as more of a libertarian, to be completely honest. I'd look into registering as a libertarian or something if I were you.
Who is this guy preaching to? Who is his audience? The republicans I know would be really put off by this. There are a lot of Republicans who aren't Holy Rollers, you know.
Jews & Christians trace their linage from Isaac and Jacob.
Muslims trace their linage from Ishmael.
Also a nice fact: Yahweh is also a name for an Canaanite deity. The Canaanite god may have started Judaism.
The number of atheists has increased dramatically, as have the numbers of non-monotheists, including Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans etc.
The conclusion of the survey was that whilst the majority of Americans pay lip service to the idea of USA being a 'Christian' country, it was more culturally Christian than religious Christian.
I found it extremely encouraging, coming from the other side of the pond, to realise that most Americans were not bat-sh*t insane Santorum-fans. But in the USA and UK, the fundamentalist, Christian Taliban punch way above their weight and make a lot more noise than the saner people. Which is why I've decided to join the National Secular Society in UK, which is campaigning against this. The last thing any of us need is a bunch of Evangelicals running our countries, with ideas about putting democracy back 50 years and possibly starting WWIII in order to fulfil 'prophecy' (shudder)
I label myself as a Libertarian... I agree with the Tea Party only in their idea that if we can't afford something, like a huge defense budget or Liberal championed entitlements, then we simply can't afford it... Borrowing money we can't pay back will only make the crash more painful and certain... I dont like Liberals big government ideas and forcing their life style ideas on me, but also can't get behind all the church in state crap to make "moral" decisions for us, so I'm stuck in the middle with no candidate I can feel good about... I think I'll go vote with a blindfold on and leave it to chance so I don't feel like its my fault when I'm eating my crap sandwich.
I have not lost anyone, correct. I told my wife while we were dating that should she ever become pregnant before marriage, I could do nothing to prevent her from getting an abortion. But I would walk away in an instant from the relationship if she did. Well I have no intention to. The big "L" Libertarian Party I find to be a joke and not particularly helpful since it's a spoiler. I have some libertarian positions yes, but the gap is too significant on defense.
So how many women have US and UK Christian thrown acid into their faces? How many women have they cut off ears and noses? How many little girls' schools have the Christian Taliban blown up? How many Buddhist statues have the Christian Taliban dynamited? How many bodies have the Christian Taliban mutilated and hung on lampposts this year?
What strange thinking.
In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas , which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.
Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.'Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary'). (I love that one)
Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.' ' (I love that one too)
3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.
5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.)
8.You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. New Zealand beer is also acceptable, as New Zealand is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
11. You will cease playing American football. There are only two kinds of proper football; one you call soccer, and rugby (dominated by the New Zealanders). Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).
15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.
God Save the Queen!
or maybe this is just the media lens? How much of the religiosity seen in the media do you live with in your daily life... your work, friends, community?