suffering...

ZendoLord84

I see suffering everywere, continious cirkels of neverending conditioned beheavirol patterns...

(im not english sorry)

Im amazed, and shocked, and HURT....
In my attempts....to save, and waken up , I rattle too much cages,

sometimes that is.

buddha says compassion is the key...
why do my instincts urge me to do more and faster..

we're running out of time...

advice?

Lookingformyway

I must ask, why do you believe we are running out of time? There is no time limit on samsara (I believe), and unlike many other faiths I don't believe Buddhasim teaches the end of the world and the need to convert others. I think the idea is to work on yourself...and if you help other along the way great

ZendoLord84

i'm not

society

the western world

the fabrics are

tearing

this is not just recession

ZendoLord84

why

history repeats itself

we're at the fall...all the signs are there

ZendoLord84

it could be...it's just too much...samsara that is...suffering..

need to filter it out for myself..

i try to save everyone and everybody

maybe just try to save a few...or myself...

zenff

The Bodhisattva vows are vows to do the impossible. “Sentient beings are numberless, I vow to save them.” That sort of thing.
It will always be that way. Our vows are impossible to fulfill.

I think what we vow is exactly what you describe. We vow to be compassionate while knowing that suffering is absolutely not going away any day soon.

ZendoLord84

thank you this made me cry a bit....

zenff

You're welcome.

ZendoLord84

relief u know...

thanks.

Lookingformyway

I think everyone here understands suffering is not going away... Still slightly confused! But glad your feeling bettet

ZendoLord84

yeah I know we all suffer....

but....SEEING it all around you....

I can almost put a spoon in the air so thick the vibes are it'll get stuck and float...

i'm not depressed or any mentall illness...got me tested plenty...on all kinds of different stuff.

Dakini

Some people are very sensitive to the suffering of others, almost psychic. I have no advice on how to deal with this, except to learn to filter some of it out, so it doesn't overwhelm you. The mind is constantly filtering and prioritizing sensory input, you know. If it didn't, we would be overwhelmed by all the input, and would be paralyzed, unable to think or act. It sounds like you have an extra sense that the mind isn't filtering.

ZendoLord84

I think...
Im ready.....
And I need..

to take my vows now...

after eight years of lay-practise

ZendoLord84

I get goosebumps before people start to fight in a bar....before....
and the fight will start somewere in the back or something (don't see it, feel it coming)

I have too many similar examples to deny this.
but hey, try explaining this, it sometimes makes me act, before, anyone else notices something....

i'm very very rational, this makes it more difficult to accept sometimes...

I've found the path years ago......for survival...not enrichtment.
Need to upgrade my game.

thank you so much all of you

ZendoLord84

i've seen enlightmentment for the first time...a year ago...

seen it...

nothing more

taiyaki

Appearances. Both of suffering and non suffering. Wisdom sees that both are projections. Compassion is the movement of emptiness is form.

In each moment if the situation is clear then action is clear. If there is suffering then there is suffering. If an antidote is clear then the antidote is used. If there is no suffering then that is clear.

Whether we like it or not. Everything is vivid and clear. Watch how one clear vision leads to one clear action.

Nothing is graspable. Find solace in that.

possibilities

I see suffering everywere,

we're running out of time...

advice?

There is only "so much" or "so little" you as an individual can do - and for your maximum effect you need to be as whole as possible. Your circle of influence might be small, maybe just the people in your immediate surroundings, and yet, as a living example you can have profound effect.

(Re)examine your frame of reference for how much and what you can achieve to alleviate suffering = and begin with yourself on your path to help others.

Unglamorous, realistic goals are easier to fulfill than grand schemes that leave you paralyzed in the face if their sheer overwhelming complexity.

One person at a time. And no, there's plenty of time. No need for extra drama.

Take care

ZendoLord84

thanks

ZendoLord84

it was full moon by the way, yesterday..

My time of the month LOL

the mindset is still here, but better to bear.

I will work on compassion....insight aint the problem.
It's always compassion...

Invincible_summer

I get goosebumps before people start to fight in a bar....before....
and the fight will start somewere in the back or something (don't see it, feel it coming)

I have too many similar examples to deny this.
but hey, try explaining this, it sometimes makes me act, before, anyone else notices something....

Okay... ???

i've seen enlightmentment for the first time...a year ago...

seen it...

nothing more

Go on...?


No offense, but I have no idea what you're getting at here.

Jeffrey

Just keep going on with understanding suffering. Remember not to throw kerosene on a fire.

person

I get goosebumps before people start to fight in a bar....before....
and the fight will start somewere in the back or something (don't see it, feel it coming)

I have too many similar examples to deny this.
but hey, try explaining this, it sometimes makes me act, before, anyone else notices something....

i'm very very rational, this makes it more difficult to accept sometimes...

The only way I've found to deal with this is to avoid negative people and situations. It can also help somewhat to realize what is your stuff and what comes from outside.

I also struggle finding compassion but I'm working on a theory that if you can develop compassion for the negativity for others then when you feel it compassion will arise in you and as the feeling of compassion is a warm, positive one that may override the negativity. As I said though I'm not that compassionate so this is only an hypothesis. Know you're not alone in this at least.

ZendoLord84

@jeffrey...

I will...

ZendoLord84

I get goosebumps before people start to fight in a bar....before....
and the fight will start somewere in the back or something (don't see it, feel it coming)

I have too many similar examples to deny this.
but hey, try explaining this, it sometimes makes me act, before, anyone else notices something....

Okay... ???

i've seen enlightmentment for the first time...a year ago...

seen it...

nothing more

Go on...?


No offense, but I have no idea what you're getting at here.

nothing's the same afterwards...that's all



the vision kinda sticks.

ZendoLord84

Appearances. Both of suffering and non suffering. Wisdom sees that both are projections. Compassion is the movement of emptiness is form.

In each moment if the situation is clear then action is clear. If there is suffering then there is suffering. If an antidote is clear then the antidote is used. If there is no suffering then that is clear.

Whether we like it or not. Everything is vivid and clear. Watch how one clear vision leads to one clear action.

Nothing is graspable. Find solace in that.

thank you...

possibilities

I recommend this: http://self-compassion.org/ Explore her site! Includes guided meditations.

(....) In short, self-compassionate people experience greater psychological well-being.

It makes sense. When our inner voice continually criticizes and berates us, we often end up in negative cycles of self-sabotage and self-harm. However, when our inner voice plays the role of a supportive friend we can -- when we notice some personal failing -- feel safe and accepted enough to both see ourselves clearly and make the changes needed to be healthier and happier.

But what is self-compassion, exactly? Drawing on the writings of various Buddhist scholars, I have defined self-compassion as having three main components: kindness, common humanity and mindfulness. (....)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristin-neff/the-golden-rule-in-revers_b_850465.html

ZendoLord84

I do not critize myself

I love myself...

It hurts me,

to watch other people hurt themselves,

possibilities

I will work on compassion....insight aint the problem.
It's always compassion...

OK. ^^^ This is what I'm referring to. Self-compassion leads to compassion for others, so I'm told.

ZendoLord84

ok..

thank you for your advice...i will look into this