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Please Share any Spiritual (dare I use the word paranormal..!!) experiences?
minimayhen88
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I would love to hear about other peoples spiritiual experiences. In Buddhism, their seems to be an acceptance and acknowlegdement of spiritual entities (i.e. Hungry Ghosts) and in my personal / working life there seem to be so many people whom have at least a passive belief ... in something metaphysical (i.e. Ghosts) or have had some kind of experince.
Okay ... at the risk of sounding a little bonkers!!! ... I will share my own experience .... (I'm pretty sane, and have no major psychological problems that I'm aware about!!!... I'm currently working as a data analyst, so I'm pretty analytically minded ... and cannot explain the following experiences ....) Basically, sometime last year, while writing my dissertation (I wasnt sleep deprived, or stressed as far as I remember!) I was sat on my little laptop, at my boyfriends bungalow .... when in the reflective surface of my boyfriends big computer screen (that was on the desk in front of my own laptop).... I saw a dark, shadow like figure dash behind me. It couldnt of been my shadow, and I was alone, except for the cat perhaps!! This was an isolated experience until the other day .... when I was sat on the sofa, once again at my boyfriends bungalow .... and in the reflection of the french (glass doors) doors, I saw a figure dash, or rather pass behind me, in the reflection. It was cetainly the shape or form of a human being ... and was so clear that it could of been a post man or something but, there was no one there .... and the way the house and garden are organised, I would have seen them.
I don't feel fear ... just a little fascinated!! I would love you guys to share any similar experiences :-)
Okay ... at the risk of sounding a little bonkers!!! ... I will share my own experience .... (I'm pretty sane, and have no major psychological problems that I'm aware about!!!... I'm currently working as a data analyst, so I'm pretty analytically minded ... and cannot explain the following experiences ....) Basically, sometime last year, while writing my dissertation (I wasnt sleep deprived, or stressed as far as I remember!) I was sat on my little laptop, at my boyfriends bungalow .... when in the reflective surface of my boyfriends big computer screen (that was on the desk in front of my own laptop).... I saw a dark, shadow like figure dash behind me. It couldnt of been my shadow, and I was alone, except for the cat perhaps!! This was an isolated experience until the other day .... when I was sat on the sofa, once again at my boyfriends bungalow .... and in the reflection of the french (glass doors) doors, I saw a figure dash, or rather pass behind me, in the reflection. It was cetainly the shape or form of a human being ... and was so clear that it could of been a post man or something but, there was no one there .... and the way the house and garden are organised, I would have seen them.
I don't feel fear ... just a little fascinated!! I would love you guys to share any similar experiences :-)
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But in my opinion this very "ordinary" experience is very "extraordinary".
I mean even the labels such as ordinary and extraordinary only matter in relationship or comparison. What do we have in this life to compare to?
So for instance in this moment I'm amazed by all the different noises. They appear from no where, abide no where, then disappear to no where. Or how about color? Where is color located? Different sensations in the body. Absolutely nothing is permanent. Everything experiential is like sand. You can grasp at it but its completely fleeting.
Yet is all appears, continuously without effort. No center or edges. Then voom gone like it never happened.
Just this everyday experience is quite amazing.
As we moved forward into this next room my father was sharply jabbed in the ribs with no visible sign of what had performed this action, We where not within range of any members of the group at the time nor of any inanimate objects that could have caused this sensation. After the tour we where both sincerely frightened by what we had experienced and had the strange sensation that something was following us. Back in the rental home for a few nights odd things happened but nothing to suggest anything paranormal.
We left Stratford Upon Avon a few days after and arrived home safe and sound that evening some time after 12 I got out of bed to use the bathroom as I came down the stairs and off the landing I was once again aware of that nasty entity, I turned around and briefly caught a glimpse of that same figure from back in the barn stood several feet behind me. At this point I recited the refuge prayer and went into the the bathroom. A minute or so behind me was my mother Who hadn't attended the ghost walk with us and commented as she came with a bit of a fright that she thought I had been stood on the landing as she walked past.
Sometime in the early hours, out of no where came the sound of very heavy footsteps. The wood was obviously creaking suggesting something heavy pressing down on them. The noise was as I recall like some kind of boot- a 'clomping' sound.
My friends brother had also experienced the same thing sat in the house with his friends on a separate occasion. The thought of staying in a haunted house actually bugs me a little bit and I probably wouldn't stay in a reputedly haunted place, but this place I'm talking about was a very nice place to stay.
There was nothing sinister about it at all, just some very real sounding footsteps to confuse unsuspecting guests.
The word 'spiritual' comes from the Latin 'spiritus' which was the difference between dead things and sentient beings, and that thing was consciousness, aka the mind. Much later Abrahamic religions added a connotation to the soul to the word, but this was not its original meaning.
So when we're 'spiritual' we're working with our minds, changing attitudes and behaviours.
Carl Jung wrote, as an antidote to alcoholism, 'Spiritus Contra Spiritum'.
I've had a few spiritual experiences of an internal nature, my first was when I did a type of confession and aired my deepest secrets to another man; it was done after a long hard look into my past. Subsequent ones came from when I did my 'My Name's Earle' bit and had to go looking for people who I had harmed and make amends to them; it was very much a Tonglen, Giving Victory to our Enemies process, but since this was with Alcoholics Anonymous, they've had a lot of practise and some really good practical advice with this.
It was one heck of a process; very liberating though, and I was touched at numerous times at a spiritual level.
I spent two years there and never saw anything paranormal.
Is it true that the birds don't sing where the camps are/were situated in your experience?
And when it was dark, I would never go down into any of the cellars!
A good thing too! We would be very disappointed if we found out you were in the cellar searching for spirits.
Relax, do nothing and fully experience with the entire "body-mind".
Give up all arbitary ideas of self, body-mind, just the experience.
Magical appearances do not dissapear into "nothingness". "No where or some where" r merely conventions that do not apply to the empty nature of suchness. We understand "No where or some where" from inherent view. When we see DO (dependent origination), we do not see such a view.
It is realizing "coldness" does not arise from nowhere or going somewhere...although we understand there is no a source call "nothingness" for appearance to dissolve into, we must also realize the D.O. nature of suchness
That is u do not even think of "where" at all, be it "somewhere or no where"n, for it is nothing like that to Phenomena that dependently originates. Then when the inherent view is deconstructed, there is no "somewhere, or no where", there is total exertion of manifestation. Experience however is vividly clear and implicitly non-dual, but inherent view is deconstructed. Becoz once a practitioner stop thinking "here, there...whatever arises inherently", he can then intuit whatever arises as activity and experience total exertion effortlessly.
It is no more "in hearing, just sound", it is the total exertion of "sound". Then view, experience and realization r full integrated in practice.
I told my grandmother about this and she told me it sounded like the woman had an "attachment", i.e. possessed. I assured her that the angry woman must have just been mentally unstable, but that theory really doesn't explain the heaviness and migraine that accompanied that strange woman's presence. I tried to rule out anything "paranormal", but sometimes I wonder if I had actually sensed that strange woman's presence before I even encountered her.
Seriously, yes. Some strange things have happened. I don't extrapolate my philosophy from them; reality does its own accounting. Buddha taught only suffering and the path to the end of suffering.