Just wondering

OneLifeForm

if there are any lay people that take monks vows everyday?

What would that make an individual doing such?

A secret monk?

A want to be monk?

Checking if they could handle being monk?

Just monking around?

taiyaki

I took my refuge vows.

To get my shit together.

I'm sure other people take it for other reasons.

OneLifeForm

I'm thinking all beings, that take vows, do it to get/keep themselves together.

I guess I was just wondering if one has to be formally ordained as a monk or if they adhere to monks vows does that make them a monk or what?

It's all personal perception really I suppose.

person

There are 8 lay vows that people often take for certain days or on retreats.

1.I undertake to abstain from causing harm and taking life (both human and non-human).
2.I undertake to abstain from taking what is not given (for example stealing, displacements that may cause misunderstandings).
3.I undertake to abstain from sexual activity.
4.I undertake to abstain from wrong speech: telling lies, deceiving others, manipulating others, using hurtful words.
5.I undertake to abstain from using intoxicating drinks and drugs, which lead to carelessness.
6.I undertake to abstain from eating at the wrong time (the right time is after sunrise, before noon).
7.I undertake to abstain from singing, dancing, playing music, attending entertainment performances, wearing perfume, and using cosmetics and garlands (decorative accessories).
8.I undertake to abstain from luxurious places for sitting or sleeping, and overindulging in sleep.


Then there are the 10 novice monk vows:

1.Refrain from killing living things.
2.Refrain from stealing.
3.Refrain from unchastity (sensuality, sexuality, lust).
4.Refrain from lying.
5.Refrain from taking intoxicants.
6.Refrain from taking food at inappropriate times (after noon).
7.Refrain from singing, dancing, playing music or attending entertainment programs (performances).
8.Refrain from wearing perfume, cosmetics and garland (decorative accessories).
9.Refrain from sitting on high chairs and sleeping on luxurious, soft beds.
10.Refrain from accepting money.

Then there are like 200-300 vows for a fully ordained monk or nun depending upon the tradition and whether one is male or female.

how

. Vows are just the guidelines for enlightened behaviour. Don't distract yourself with the classifications of Monk or layperson. The only thing that can limit such vows would be ones lack of willingness to try to live by them.
Different traditions offer different sets of them.

OneLifeForm

Thank you both for your comments

Zero

Just monking around?

this made the tea go down the wrong way...

ThePensum

7.Refrain from singing, dancing, playing music or attending entertainment programs (performances).

Oh dear, refraining from singing and playing music? Alas I will never become a monk.

OneLifeForm

Just monking around?

this made the tea go down the wrong way...

Tea-rribly sorry about that

Zero

Just monking around?

this made the tea go down the wrong way...

Tea-rribly sorry about that

OOf!! good one...

OneLifeForm