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Also not to beat a dead horse (its better to have this information out there):
A lot of people mistaken buddha nature for "the watcher" or "oneness".
To those people, I urge you to keep your practice going and to see an authentic teacher who knows what the hell they are teaching.
Buddha nature is the dynamic activity of this interdependent reality. It is the full conclusion of this very moments arising and then dropping completely away, traceless, traceless, traceless. It isn't a state, thing, or something to grasp onto. One doesn't cultivate it, nor is it established as an existent or non existent entity. Any movement is buddha nature, and as such because it is not a thing, nothing is happening.
Also not to beat a dead horse (its better to have this information out there):
A lot of people mistaken buddha nature for "the watcher" or "oneness".
To those people, I urge you to keep your practice going and to see an authentic teacher who knows what the hell they are teaching.
Buddha nature is the dynamic activity of this interdependent reality. It is the full conclusion of this very moments arising and then dropping completely away, traceless, traceless, traceless. It isn't a state, thing, or something to grasp onto. One doesn't cultivate it, nor is it established as an existent or non existent entity. Any movement is buddha nature, and as such because it is not a thing, nothing is happening.
Cheers.
I Loved this post! I also love my Buddha nature! haha.
Let me explain, 1. Yes, we are all keeping our practice going. Did'nt u say u are 24? 2. The 'authentic' teacher part...ouch. hold on, let me pick up a piece of my entire past/people off the floor, after you stepped on it. 3. I Agree that it is 'nothing happening'. What I say is yes, it is all you described it to be/not be...now, as I said in another thread, I need labels, people. How do you sign language this stuff. 4. You made my point, dont u see? I love how you describe my Buddha nature/mind/state...pick a word please. lololololol
@Vastminds Some Zenists get a decoder ring that helps with labels. Mine tells me to always say "it's not that" while rolling my eyes. Course it also says that Buddha Nature is just the PC label for Spiritual nakedness but you didn't hear that from me. Dam! Did I just say that out loud.
And I thought... whether one mind or no mind, when you discover what it is or isn't, it will be a new one on you. But I've noticed that I and other Buddhists don't always like that, because we want first to recognise what has been described at a distance, and have the space to look it up and down and shake its hand and get to know it over tea and cake.
Because the new is a shock, and shocks hurt a bit. And it probably will be a shock to everyone currently in the dentist's waiting room, and there's nothing to be done about it, but it'll be ok.
Shakespeare defines the nature of substance, if not the substance of substance.
THESEUS
More strange than true: I never may believe These antic fables, nor these fairy toys. Lovers and madmen have such seething brains, Such shaping fantasies, that apprehend More than cool reason ever comprehends. The lunatic, the lover and the poet Are of imagination all compact: One sees more devils than vast hell can hold, That is, the madman: the lover, all as frantic, Sees Helen's beauty in a brow of Egypt: The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling, Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven; And as imagination bodies forth The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing A local habitation and a name. Such tricks hath strong imagination, That if it would but apprehend some joy, It comprehends some bringer of that joy; Or in the night, imagining some fear, How easy is a bush supposed a bear!
'The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling, Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven; And as imagination bodies forth The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing'
@Songhill and Friends : Since sticking is involved now, I just want to say,
Gratitude for this thread and all who have participated, thus far. I got some 'substance', a decoder ring, and yes, my ego, put in my two cents, while enjoying the nice exchanges. Did I mention Shakespeare made an appearance? Thanks everyone! Loved this whole thread!
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A lot of people mistaken buddha nature for "the watcher" or "oneness".
To those people, I urge you to keep your practice going and to see an authentic teacher who knows what the hell they are teaching.
Buddha nature is the dynamic activity of this interdependent reality. It is the full conclusion of this very moments arising and then dropping completely away, traceless, traceless, traceless. It isn't a state, thing, or something to grasp onto. One doesn't cultivate it, nor is it established as an existent or non existent entity. Any movement is buddha nature, and as such because it is not a thing, nothing is happening.
Cheers.
Let me explain,
1. Yes, we are all keeping our practice going. Did'nt u say u are 24?
2. The 'authentic' teacher part...ouch. hold on, let me pick up a piece of
my entire past/people off the floor, after you stepped on it.
3. I Agree that it is 'nothing happening'. What I say is yes,
it is all you described it to be/not be...now, as I said in another thread,
I need labels, people. How do you sign language this stuff.
4. You made my point, dont u see?
my Buddha nature/mind/state...pick a word please. lololololol
@Vastminds
Some Zenists get a decoder ring that helps with labels.
Mine tells me to always say "it's not that" while rolling my eyes.
Course it also says that Buddha Nature is just the PC label for Spiritual nakedness but you didn't hear that from me.
Dam! Did I just say that out loud.
It's funny you say that though, Your not the only person I have heard
that term from. (nakedness)
Must be why it sits next to 'emptiness' on the decoder manual.
Because the new is a shock, and shocks hurt a bit. And it probably will be a shock to everyone currently in the dentist's waiting room, and there's nothing to be done about it, but it'll be ok.
Suchness is obvious. Its a mirage like appearance. Spontaneously arisen!!!
What substance is there? Like foam or bubbles. Where is this substance?
This truth body is a hallway full of mirrors endlessly echoing. Reflections are never established!!!!!!
'The poet's eye, in fine frenzy rolling,
Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;
And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen
Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing'
Yes it is. :cool: The definiton of substance is "essential nature" which approximates tathatâ in Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit.
I think you are using substance this way which is not how I am using it.
just want to say,
Gratitude for this thread and all who have participated, thus far.
I got some 'substance', a decoder ring, and yes,
my ego, put in my two cents, while enjoying the nice exchanges.
Did I mention Shakespeare made an appearance?
Thanks everyone! Loved this whole thread!