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Why do we get hurt?

edited April 2013 in General Banter
If someone calls me a fool and I get hurt, does that mean I have an image about myself as a brilliant man - and because someone contradicts that image, I get hurt? Or if someone calls me a loser and I get hurt, does that mean deep down I believe in cutthroat competition even though outwardly I may say otherwise?

My point here is: if something hurts us psychologically, could we safely conclude that it exposes a wound inside, something that needs to be cleaned up fast? It could be our repressed desires, fears, anything. And getting hurt might well be the proof that the thing is active inside of us, even though we may have forgotten about it.

What's the solution?
riverflow

Comments

  • The ego, that is what gets hurt. The notion of self, you are a person and how dare somebody come along and insult you, how dare they! When one sees things for what they really are, the words can pass over you like the wind, or if it is constructive criticism you may take it on board.

    Until or if you have total loss of your ego and you get hurt by somebody elses words, take a moment to repeat to yourself what they said and why and then react. they may be right, you may being a dick, you may not. If you are not in the 'wrong' then explain your point of view with a calm and well put together manner, question their motive for doing so and then they may look at themselves.

    Stop clinging to the ego, it doesn't exist unless you make it exist, peel it away and throw it in the bin like an onion, unless you want to give it to me to eat!
    riverflow
  • misecmisc1misecmisc1 I am a Hindu India Veteran
    edited April 2013
    we get hurt because we have a notion of 'I' inside us - just thinking, logically analyzing, understanding, philosophizing about anatta(non-self or not-mine) will not really help in actual practical situation, because the mind will still act in the deluded way. only when we go inside us and see what anatta actually is through our direct experience, then will the mind take anatta not as a concept, but as the way it is (body and mind are not-mine) . Until anatta is not experienced by direct experience inside us, till then anatta will only be a concept, even less strong than the concept of 'I' inside us, because till then there will be an 'I' understanding anatta. The solution I think is to meditate both on and off the cushion, by trying to be in present moment with mindfulness and accepting all experiences in the present moment without judging them.
    ThailandTom
  • howhow Veteran Veteran
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    I think everyone suffers from varing degrees of inadequacy. In a sense, it is the reason why our skandha's arose to manifest as the composite being that we are.
    It is an expression of our sense of separation from everything else.
    What ever inflames that innate inadequacy points out a path to address the reason of our existence.
    My solution is to try to automatically see how all such arising "hurt" fits with the 4NT's.
    Meditation is my vehicle to try to allow such hurt to unfold un emcombered by habutated protectionist identity impulses.
    Works for me.

    riverflow
  • ZaylZayl Veteran
    For me what hurts the most is that someone is directing such negativity towards me. I could care less what they call me and why. It's uncalled for aggression and cruelty that pains me.
    Jeffrey
  • @music - I think we all carry an image of ourselves-- usually not always conscious, but it is there-- but it is not so clearly defined either. We have several competing images of ourselves and some are more bolstered by what is going on at the moment. It is easy to have a positive image (and outlook) when things are going nicely. But if someone acts like a jerk (or we perceive they act like a jerk) that image can be replaced with another competing image. So it isn't just one image. So the images are like the masks we wear and underneath that mask is this thing we believe is there-- an unchanging essential "me" that is always there. But the truth is this "self" IS the process of perpetual changing masks. Underneath the mask there is no essential permanent "me." The problem is we believe there is!

    There is consciousness, but it is always conscious of some thing: "Someone is disclosed by something. Something is disclosed by someone." (Nagarjuna) We have the illusion that we are distinct, independently acting, permanent entities, when who we are is constantly changing, even at this very moment. No two moments are ever identical and no two perceptions are ever identical.

    Listen to Beethoven's sixth symphony for example (my favourite symphony of his--and I assume you like Beethoven too): The music, and what you perceive and feel naturally vary from one moment to the next, sometimes even abruptly. Bear in mind what Nagarjuna says: "Someone is disclosed by something. Something is disclosed by someone." Who you are in that very moment of listening is revealed through the interaction with the music. What is more, listen to the exact same recording a second time around, and the moment of interaction is different--it cannot be duplicated.

    We crave for stability, we want to be just one thing, and the certainty of being that one thing. We want to exist. This contradiction is what brings about suffering, because all the various masks are competing against one another. Which one is the "real" you? Various circumstances seem to validate one mask but then two minutes later a there is a circumstance that seems to validate another mask, even a contradictory one. That ceaseless whirlwind of activity is itself suffering.

    You are certainly correct though in that the masks take shape in our early past. Different experiences help give rise to and continue to validate the various masks. We like to hang on to certain ones and call that our "identity," again seeking stability (even if the identity is not a very positive one, at least it is stable, so we think!). Many of the early wounds we suffer give rise to the masks we might otherwise not pay much attention to, until someone exposes it like a raw nerve.

    None of this is to merely dismiss the masks as non-substantial though. The masks (or tendencies) should be examined, as you suggest, for where they may have arisen from psychologically. The repression of certain masks doesn't eliminate that pain, but only exacerbates the problem, so the masks need to be examined by oneself, which takes time, patience and a lot of healing. We get into the naturally harmful habit of thinking "I am a likeable person," "I am unlovelable," "I am intelligent," "I am a bad person," etc. The word "am" is actually more the source of the problem in those statements than the word "I." In actuality we cannot define ourselves (or others) in any final, essential, absolute sense.

    Meditation is to train oneself to observe the flurry of masks but without getting caught up in them, not identifying with them.
    personJeffreyTosh
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