I highly suggest you read.........

Wisdom23

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1848500130/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=tfkil-21&camp=1406&creative=6394&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=1848500130&adid=1320176HAC19T49X66QS&&ref-refURL=http://www.thefuckitlife.com/shop.htm

Whilst it isn't strictly Buddhist there is sooooo mcu i have taken from this book. If you are offended by swearing please don't click on the link lol. I read this book in 4 days, i think it maybe a life changer.

Citta

Nah.

poptart

Citta said:

Nah.

Care to elaborate?

Citta

Yup.

MaryAnne

Type-A personality types could probably get a lot out of this book....
I have a couple of Type-A's in my family, and I (along with others) am always telling them to "Let it go, already!" and "Stop dwelling!"... which in other words is pretty much "F*ck it!". Worriers, dwellers, drama queens, anyone with a tendency towards OCD-like behaviors and 'neurotic' attitudes might do a lot better learning how to say F*ck It.

Is this [book] a decent substitute for learning and understanding Buddhism and/or any other spiritual or philosophical path? Hmmm, I really wouldn't go THAT far.

Citta

Nor would I MaryAnne. I don't see how in practice it wouldn't just become aversion and/or indifference...which is the other side of the clinging coin.

John_Spencer

I'm can't agree with @citta or @MaryAnne.

Although I haven't read the book, the reader reviews here clearly show that some people have found it insightful and helpful.

I think it is useful for some people to be profane and not too 'holier than thou' when it comes to their spiritual path.

Citta

Profanity is neither here nor there. Expressions of indifference however, whether profane or genteel might be problematic.
Upekkha ..equanimity..is not indifference. It is being with all that arises.

John_Spencer

Citta said:

Profanity is neither here nor there. Expressions of indifference however, whether profane or genteel might be problematic.
Upekkha ..equanimity..is not indifference. It is being with all that arises.

@citta - where have you got the impression that this book is about indifference?

Citta

" Fuck it " is not an expression of Upekkha. Its an expression of forcibly withdrawn interest.

John_Spencer

So, as I asked before @citta - where did you get the impression that this book is about indifference?

Have you read the reviews I pointed to above?

Citta

I have just told you why it is, in my view, about indifference.
See above re. upekkha.
We were asked for our views. I have stated mine.
I have no interest in stating my views about other peoples views of a book you haven't read.

John_Spencer

@citta - your first response to @wisdom23 's post 'Nah' and your second response 'Yup' I think were an inadequate and dismissive response to a poster who has clearly been deeply inspired by this book, as have many others.

You said in an earlier post "I don't see how in practice it wouldn't just become aversion..."

I sense the aversion is yours and no-one else's.

Citta

Well inadequate and aversive or not....'tis mine own.

John_Spencer

Quite.

riverflow

LEBOWSKI
My wife is not the issue here. I
hope that my wife will someday learn
to live on her allowance, which is
ample, but if she doesn't, sir, that
will be her problem, not mine, just
as your rug is your problem, just as
every bum's lot in life is his own
responsibility regardless of whom he
chooses to blame. I didn't blame
anyone for the loss of my legs, some
chinaman in Korea took them from me
but I went out and achieved anyway.
I can't solve your problems, sir,
only you can.

DUDE
Ah f--k it.

LEBOWSKI
Sure! F--k it! That's your answer!
Tattoo it on your forehead! Your
answer to everything! Your "revolution"
is over, Mr. Lebowski! Condolences! The bums
lost! ...My advice is, do what your parents
did! Get a job, sir! The bums will
always lose-- do you hear me,
Lebowski? The bums will always lose!