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but intentions can go wrong.. even the best can create the worst outcomes. This was pointed out in another thread..
i don't know about inducing emotions.. i have to think about that.. is meditation a falsly induced calm that leads u from reality and ur normal mindset.. or what? i have to think long and hard about.. it..
Please don't believe that meditation is always a clam affair, C.
i don't know about inducing emotions.. i have to think about that.. is meditation a falsly induced calm that leads u from reality and ur normal mindset.. or what? i have to think long and hard about.. it..
Celebrin,
Essentially, all things are fabricated (sankhata), from your physical and mental processes, to the products of those processes. And, if you think about it, all of your experiences are also fabrications—from verbal functions (thought-conception and discursive thinking) to mental functions (feelings and perceptions) to bodily functions (in-and-out breathing). From my understanding, the only real difference from the Buddhist perspective is that the right states of concentration (along with the other seven factors of the noble eight path) can eventually lead one to the cessation of mental fabrications (through the destruction of avijja) enabling one to 'touch the deathless'.
My mother once got food poisoning from eating fried clams at a Howard Johnson restaurant, back when there were Howard Johnson restaurants. She said it was worse than childbirth. The food poisoning, not the Howard Johnson restaurant.
How's that for taking an off topic to new heights (or depths)? I should get an award for that one.
It is good that you are wary about it. An oft silented fact is that meditation can have adverse effects, from physical to mental. My advice is if you do not feel right about it, go seek a meditation teacher who is competent and is recognized by others. He will help you when uncertain.
In reference to several others' responses: There is no proof that marijuana actually "eats away at one's brain" - people were told that back when the failed 'War On Drugs' was started, but the only test that made these claims was one where monkeys were suffocated with the smoke, thus killing brain cells first, which would have happened no matter what was suffocating them.
I don't think weed should be used as a tool to attempt to reach enlightenment, but as a herbalist I have extensively researched the medical uses of cannabis, and I believe it is a gift, to be used with extreme care. THC and CBD, the primary active cannabinoids in Marijuana, do have proven medical uses...... I agree meditation and trained concentrated thought can be wonderful way to control pain, but enlightenment and focus like that takes years....... as someone with a terminal illness I don't have that long to learn how to feel better and good luck trying to do it when im slumped over the lou barfing my brains out and I think weed is always 100xs better than a percocet or some other man made drug if you need pain or nausea relief. But don't use it as an excuse my friend, make sure that before you smoke to quell your pain or anxiety, you need to meditate and do your best to control it on your own and use your smoking as a last resort.... not because weed is bad for you in any way (that is still yet to be proven) but because well simply put.... what does not kill you only makes you stronger. Pain can be good some times as long as we use it as a learning and strengthening tool.... Coming out of my pain and suffering alive and on my own taught me more about life and enlightenment than you could ever imagine. best wishes
Celebrin ...
as a flower-child of the 1960's, and a meditator for a long, long time, I can assure you that what we think is "insight" while doing drugs (and weed was my favorite) is not really insight.
Insight changes who we are, changes our patterns and behaviors. Weed ah-hah makes us think we are clever, or that we see "behind the curtain" ... but when the weed wears off, we are back to our old selves again. I suppose the antidote to that is to not stop smoking!
As for not being able to meditate more than 30 minutes a day, you will find teaching monks who will tell you that ANY amount of meditation time, even 5 minutes, is better than nothing. And many who think that short meditation periods where the mind is focusing well are better than long ones where the mind wanders like a lost sheep (gathering wool) ... we are taught that long meditations where our mind is wandering is only reinforcing the wandering.
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Having sex with one clam when you're already married to another?
-bf
Touché
Did you mean "clam" or "calm"?
You sometimes take me into such deep waters - that I never know what you mean for sure
-bf
Celebrin,
Essentially, all things are fabricated (sankhata), from your physical and mental processes, to the products of those processes. And, if you think about it, all of your experiences are also fabrications—from verbal functions (thought-conception and discursive thinking) to mental functions (feelings and perceptions) to bodily functions (in-and-out breathing). From my understanding, the only real difference from the Buddhist perspective is that the right states of concentration (along with the other seven factors of the noble eight path) can eventually lead one to the cessation of mental fabrications (through the destruction of avijja) enabling one to 'touch the deathless'.
Regards,
Jason
I get...that clammy feeling...oh, that clammy feeling...
Happy as a clam in Tulsa,
Palzang
How's that for taking an off topic to new heights (or depths)? I should get an award for that one.
I don't think you're entirely clear on the concept of Buddhist meditation. Maybe a little more study?
It is good that you are wary about it. An oft silented fact is that meditation can have adverse effects, from physical to mental. My advice is if you do not feel right about it, go seek a meditation teacher who is competent and is recognized by others. He will help you when uncertain.
as a flower-child of the 1960's, and a meditator for a long, long time, I can assure you that what we think is "insight" while doing drugs (and weed was my favorite) is not really insight.
Insight changes who we are, changes our patterns and behaviors. Weed ah-hah makes us think we are clever, or that we see "behind the curtain" ... but when the weed wears off, we are back to our old selves again. I suppose the antidote to that is to not stop smoking!
As for not being able to meditate more than 30 minutes a day, you will find teaching monks who will tell you that ANY amount of meditation time, even 5 minutes, is better than nothing. And many who think that short meditation periods where the mind is focusing well are better than long ones where the mind wanders like a lost sheep (gathering wool) ... we are taught that long meditations where our mind is wandering is only reinforcing the wandering.