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You Know You're Enlightened When...............................................................
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You Know You're Enlightened When...............................................................
all the lights are on but nobody's home
you understand.
That is a good answer. With a degree of realisation comes increasing understanding. In a sense understanding can occur before or after enlightenment.
So for those on the path you know you are enlightened when your realisation is understood. Most realisation is just arising. Enlightenment does not arise, we 'recognise its being', to put it in the limitations of language. That is my experience.
you give a schytt about whether you're enlightened or not....
You're enlightened when everything finally falls into place.
You no longer feel a craving to post anything on this forum.
Wot no compassion?
Posting out of compassion is AOK.
Perhaps when you are no longer under the delusion that enlightenment is about you.
You get excited about impermanence when something breaks.
Very good @how, but who is it really about?
...\lol/..
@anataman
That "You" and "who" is simply the dream construct of a karmic virus that propagates itself through the corruption of all incoming sense data.
Any practice that isolates that virus program from manipulating the sense data, allows that dream to fall apart.
What is left is an awakening unhindered by the delusive identifications behind the concepts of "you" or a "who".
Can't remember if that was from Captain Kirk or Dr. Seuss..Now those two I am always mixing up.
It's easy to understand how you can get mixed up by these two: Captain Kirk was in a story about future fictitious lives and their relationships, and Dr Seuss wrote stories about characters who had odd relationships that do not exist...
Or is it the same thing
A good answer on many levels.
There came a point in 'my search', when I realised I did not have the qualities, determination and focus required for attainment. Too lazy, too easily distracted, too much bad karma etc.
So I focussed on preparing myself to be of service to someone who had a chance. In other words serving rather than gaining.
The Truth (so to speak) then began its journey to me . . . servers always required . . .
Nice to have you back @how
I didn't realise he'd gone!
... a bunch of people follow you around proclaiming you are.
Maybe I've just missed recent posts from him.
^^No, he had been gone indeed.
You Know You're Enlightened When...............................................................
belief stops...
Believe it or not, belief is not part of knowing. So in a sense you know or 'knowing' but not that you are anything or when.
So it would be perhaps more appropriate to say: You know when you're enlightened . . . . .
You want of course to know how but that is not one of the conditions of enablement.
You can watch waves breaking all day and be fully content.
...I no longer post anything on this forum out of compassion for those who would be subjected to reading my posts.
Isn't it a great paradox. Many people here are clearly spot on with their replies but would freely admit they are not enlightened.
It is when we know that we know
You don't need more lights anymore.
A brief flash of light!
The fear of death rumbles in...
What predicts the storm?
... you don't need fork handles....
exactly!
ET phone home...
When you are finally and forever truly honest with yourself I would think.
And how would you know when that is, exactly...?
Don't know. Maybe if there's a video camera that can record up to years and years, you might be able to notice it?
You Know You're Enlightened When...............................................
you understand The 4 Noble Truths, you understand, this is suffering, this is the origin of suffering, this is the cessation of suffering, this is the way leading to the cessation of suffering.
Some might say 'understanding' is not sufficient.....
You know that you’re enlightened when you know that knowing it (just like questioning it or denying it) is “playing with unrealities”.
you can laugh at Mara and love him at the same time.