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CONTEMPLATION
anataman
Who needs a title?Where am I? Veteran
in Meditation
Something to think about, or meditate upon!
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Somewhere between.
A question, maybe?
Allowing the meditative mind out of conditionings sandbox.
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I missed this response - HOW?
I associate contemplation with thinking deeply about something. Not the same as meditation.
Well said @SpinyNorman the digestion of our relationship with meditation allows us to be contemplative.
This is where concentration and meditation can lead to contemplation of other aspects of the eightfold path.
The Middle Way paradoxically folds in on itself whilst still widening to encompas the breadth but not the muddle of our monkeying.
Personally I see contemplation as conventional thinking but with a purpose in mind (to think deeply about something) whereas meditation being an altered state of awareness, detached from ones thoughts...
Contemplation is when ones conventional awareness locks onto a certain thought pattern...and puts the brakes on monkey mind's attempt to just think for the sake of thinking
But then how would "I" know....After all I'm just a thought who thinks I am thinking I am just a thought ....
Some food for thought to 'ponder'
I must be doing it wrong ... not for me it ain't ...
Nuffink like a bit of detachment.
Please explain...
@lobster
'Detached' from ones thoughts that is to say not locked in and dragged along by them "Teflon coated mind"...(Well this is personal experience I can't really speak for others and their experiences) Thoughts come and go just like feelings & sensations etc, moment to moment...(with no stories 'attached' )...
Altered states of mind belong to yoga, trance, attachments, subtle arisings etc etc
Meditation is not for me a thing I enter and leave. My body is still, that is all.
This is the method, when above the boiling or in the boiling - just lobster.
http://www.shikantaza.com
Altered state of 'awareness' that is to see things in a different light as opposed to monkey mind mentality...
Since stumbling upon the path (this altered state of awareness) it is hard to 'snap out of it' (not that there's any 'desire' to do so )
And samadhi of course.
^^^ does Samadhi come after Vendredhi in French dharma?
Excellent!
Understood. In Buddhist terms you are describing the god realm.
http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/tp/Six-Realms-of-Existence.htm
There is a saying about loving sufficiently to let go. However the time and choice is open and must come naturally. As far as I am aware the best advice is, 'increase in Love'.
An atheist Buddhist describing the 'god' realm, now that's a real turn up for the books... Well thank god it's not a permanent place of abode, just temporary accommodation
(mind you one could grow accustom to the lifestyle )
The 'god realm' describes an internal condition. A recognizable part of the path. If you want to make it about imiginary goblins than that is your choice ...
All describe internal conditions of sorts @lobster ...But I do like the idea of imaginary goblins....Where can I get some.....
I can supply imaginary goblins at a very competitive price. No post and packing required!
As far as I have understand all the realms are actual places of rebirth. In the human realm we can see and experience all aspects, hence why the human birth is the most precious, but i've no reason to doubt that a hell realm with awful conditions could exist, I mean, look at this world, people experience hellish things right here, right now, so its certainly possible.
As an aside... If you read the thread 'Super Rich Kid' then it almost sounds like the demigod realm.
@mindatrisk rebirth is reoccurring moment to moment....the universe (of which we are part of) is a constant state of flux...
We experience many things in life, dukkha happens, happiness like sadness is also impermanent...
And thus I have heard it said that the Buddha once said ‘Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya’ (Nothing whatsoever should be clung to) if one clings one suffers, it's as simple as that (which does not necessarily mean it an easy thing to do, but a simple truth all the same).....
I agree completely, but there are many Buddhist traditions that teach literally about a life after this one and various realms we can be born into.
Aces, dude!
But even then all are impermanent and all states of the 'mind'
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is to behold the mind-The mind is the root from which all things grow-If you can understand the mind-Everything else is included!"
Bodhidharma
Agreed.