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Bhikku Bodhi’s In the Buddha’s Words
Thanks, I'm glad. I take issue with the judgement that samsara is pointless. It is a subjective label and yet many qualified teachers seem to believe it an absolute statement of truth. It simply is not
Specifically I'm speaking of not taking any teaching or interpretation on faith especially if it goes against your better judgement or common sense. That he said "even if I said it" helps a lot because of the different ways these things can be interpreted and that a teaching meant for one person may not be the teaching for another. Many or most suttas are named after the student that inspired it and it was directed towards.
To me the point would be an ever greater awareness.
It's all just information being shared in a cooperative way.
That's my take being almost as influenced by Star Trek as Buddhism.
He was already reborn in a hell realm. Strangely, King Yama is a Hindu god of death and so I guess Buddha just kind of adopted it to suit the dharma.
Pretty sly for conversions sake. Using the pre existing gods in stories promoting a slightly different take on things.
I mean, he had King Yama relating his story of the 4 signs except he left out the 4th and called it the 3 Divine Messengers.
So basically he remade his vision into a story to suit the needs of the monks he was addressing at the time.
Be careful not to state opinions as facts.
It is fact. The 4 visions are an old person, a sick person, a corpse and a person sitting in meditation.
In the parable of the 3 Divine Messengers it is the same minus the meditator and it is the Hindu god of death talking to a person just reborn in a hell realm.
It is not a critique but an example of Buddha tailoring his teachings to suit his current audience.
Anything stated is opinion? For example in some maths 2 + 2 can equal 5 or just about anything.
oh dear 0/zero exists? Does that mean 0=1? What about negative numbers ... now widely accepted ...
In my opinion Nothing is a fact. 🤪
In one opinion, the most essential meditative understanding of any fact is how not to let it manifest as sufferings cause.
Is an opinion, just us being too lazy to objectively reexamine all truths in each new moment for the continued validity of their existence?
How powerful must an identity be in order to credibly recreate its dream world with every new nano second against the denial of reality's counter truth?
Just another fact wobbling about upon a foundation of unanswerable questions.
I have to say I really do like the way Bikkhu Bodhi condenses for too much repetition. I find it is much easier to follow when I'm not reading the same paragraph over 5 times with only one variation between them.
The way he did The Dart of Painful Feeling (2 Arrows) is just superb in my opinion.
I agree, but I also understand why the Buddha repeated the Dhamma over and over again. As the language of the time was only spoken, by getting the monks to repeat the text over and over again it was more likely to stay in the mind stream.
That's true. There are suttas about monks going to the disciples such as Venerable Mahakaccana for wisdom. There are also as you mention, suttas about deities transmitting the dharma.
The first is an example of Buddhas teachings being understood by the disciples who are qualified to speak with the voice of the Buddha. The latter is an example of Buddha using metaphor to relate better to the audience at hand.
Both of these are useful in painting as true a portrait of the Buddha as possible when no picture exists.
@Kerome, I urge you to re read the introduction to Chapter 2: The Bringer of Light and really take your time on it. I think it may at least partially explain your objections above.