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Hello all,
I have decided to write a book on how people tip in the world. I was wondering if you all could help me start my research. Please tell me how much you tip in different situations. Please tell me what you tip in cases where the service is good.
1. Delivery-Food
2. Restraunt
3. Delivery-Non Food
Thanks. Gassho
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1: Delivery of food = couple of £s
2: Restuarant = 10% if service is good, a little extra if it's exceptional
3: Delivery, non food = no tip
I second that.
Restaurant, unless the waitstaff sucks, I tip 20% and usually round up to make it an even number. If the staff is helpful but unfriendly, 10%. If they suck, I'll give a nominal tip, maybe 50c or something, almost more as a reminder that their service was noticed.
Delivery, non food? I have no idea, I didn't even know you were supposed to tip :-/
What most people do not realize is that in my job I use my own car. Pizza Hut gives me 0.65 cents for each delivery. My gas is about 1.00 dollar per delivery. I already lose money. If my car breaks down I am responsible to fix it. And on top of that I have to miss work while fixing it. Double whammy. At this point if my car breaks down I will have to quit my job. I couldn't afford to fix it at all.
The prices of pizza have gone up at my work. The reason is because drivers keep quitting and they have to rehire and retrain which costs money. The reason why drivers quit is because they can't afford the job. Plus my manager isn't the best person to work for. She is old and always in a bad mood. So here they are quitting and here the customers are not tipping. Then they wonder why pizza costs so much. Of course Pizza Hut doesn't pass that money along to the employees.
Does all this seem wrong to anyone else?
If you don’t tip these folks, then why should you tip a person who is hired to bring you food that you paid for?
For Food Delivery ( Pizza and such) I tip the same way as if I was going to a resturant. 20 %. But Here in my county all the delivery places have started charging a delivery fee. In which the drivers very seldom see. ( I think this is wrong, If your going to charge extra for the delivery because of gas, the drivers should get it).As for Delivery of Non foods. I usually haul things home myself. And for food I pick up, I still tip, All be it only about 10%.
As I recall those people are not allowed to accept tips. What is your problem? What a dick.
At any rate, bushido, you have to understand that in the US, because culturally we tip, many states have laws that allow employers to pay their service workers far less than minimum wage. For example, here in michigan, it is expected that waitresses/waiters will be tipped, so employers are allowed to pay them a mere $2.15 an hour (or something like that - I don't know the exact figure). Obviously this is not a living wage, so tips are required to make a living.
Like comic, I also used to deliver pizzas, and my employer paid minimum wage plus .25 per delivery. As comic said, there are many costs incurred in delivering pizzas, notably gas and car repairs. Minimum wage + .25 per delivery do not cover it, so tips are required.
If we stopped tipping, perhaps people would be forced to demand higher wages, but I think we all know how well that sort of thing would work.
Bushido, my father was a police officer, and it was his job to do those things and put his life on the line. he was compensated appropriately, as are firefighters and others. As for the manual laborers, I agree with you, but all we can do is protest at the grocery store. If you don't like the wages that laborers make, do not support their employers - buy organic, or organize a protest. Become politically active. Become involved. I don't think venting your frustrations on comic the pizza delivery guy is going to solve anything.
Nice talk.
No "problem." Just asking why food servers should get money beyond their salary for doing what they got hired for.
What do you suggest, Bushido? Not tipping traditionally tipped employees? Or tipping every single laborer you come across? Neither is fruitful practice, so I choose to tip people who rely on it to survive. The middle path, my friend. You can easily see how straying from it causes negativity on both sides of the argument.
Ok I will explain it to you. You see police officers start out at around 30,000 dollars per year with benefits. When they retire they get pensions and all sorts of benefits.
Now let's look at what food service people get. They get minimum wage. The reason for this is because people tip them. That way they can get enough money to live on. If they were paid more the business would raise the prices to cover the extra pay. That would fall onto the customer. Either way the customer pays. Make sense? Then after working a lifetime at this job they retire with no pension and no benefits. The only thing they get is social security. Now on that 6,000 dollars a year they made all their life that doesn't amount to much. The only way they make retirement money is if they invest into something.
Now let's look at the low paid ILLEGAL ALIEN working in the fields. Well first off they are not here legally. They work here just long enough and learn just enough English to get a green card and then take a job away from an American because they will work cheaper.
So let's be fair to the police and other government workers. They should get a tip when they actually do something that helps the community. And everytime they are rude to a driver they should be docked. Oh and they can only make minimum wage and no benifits. Well ok let them have the benefits. They put their lives on the line. Of course the food server could be killed by a stray bullet from a cop shooting another innocent man.
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I have been trying my best to remember these words recently and I thought they might be helpful here. As for the question: I tip around $1.00-2.00 for pizza delivery, 16-20% at resturants, and I never get non-food deliveries so I am unsure as to how much I would tip.
I also believe that there are many people who do difficult and important jobs, but I cannot afford to tip them all. I do what I can. I try to tip those that live off of tips because I know that they are using this money to feed their family. Police are 'paid' by me since their salaries come out of my checks in the form of taxes, and they are paid well in most cases. If one wants to 'tip' a police officer that's fine, but I do not see that they depend on 'tips' whereas others do. I focus my tips on those that need them to survive. My friend Marcie is a police officer and she makes more money than I ever have. She also gets out of DUI's because she is a police officer as well as other 'perks'. I feel that police officers get their fair share of special treatment.
(i'm kidding, of course... just trying to lighten the mood )
I pity the fool that dont get tipped!
Mind you, I was pretty useless and used to spill beer all over the place so that probably explains it ! Plus I haven't got big boobies!!!
Ha ha ha!! That reminds me of Meat Loaf in "Fight Club" !!
Hahahahahaha! That's so funny! I am glad you lightened up the mood! And I am a cute blonde female....I don't need to bribe them either! (Kidding, of course!)
Anyways.....I was a server all through my college years, so I tend to tip food servers good. But only if they are actually GOOD. I tip about 20% when I eat at a restaurant and I tip delivery drivers (but we maybe get food delivered once a year!) about $3-$4. I guess I have never really tipped non-food people before! Or do you mean like someone handling your luggage for you at the airport or something? I have a husband for that!!
I quote Mr. Pink:
"This tipping automatically - it's for the f***ing birds!"
thank god i never tip a cop though it could make you a lot easier when you break rules (usually the traffic), so if you want to be a road hog , make sure u bring a lot of cash.
Some years ago we dont have to tip for any services in restaurant or other places, but now some people tip for the service,in the restaurant the tip is about 10 cent to a quarter ( US dollar)
BTW I am about to TRY to set up MSN. Wish me luck.
I pity the fool who is a dumbass!
Because, in a particular society, there may be a custom of tipping, employers are encouraged to pay their staff less, particularly in the restaurant trade.
As a method of remunerating service rendered, it is remarkably feudal and (to some) patronising.
The habit, in some restaurants in the UK and France, of adding a percentage to the bill for 'service' I find deeply offensive and always remove it. Having worked in bars and restaurants, I am all-too-aware how often the tronc system just swells the owners' coffers.
So what you are saying is that it sucks. I agree. It would be better if service employees just got paid a decent wage.
I tip because here in the U.S. many food workers don't even get minimum wage from their bosses. They make a small hourly rate and are expected to make up the difference with tips. Cops, on the other hand, make a better salary. And I would tip the people picking veggies, but it's not like I know any personally.
However, there is a good reason to tip food service people. Tips insure prompt service - not to mention that a good tip is a decent insurance against people spitting in your food. It's awful that it happens, but bad tippers beware. Of course, we should all expect good service, just as we all expect a firefighter to put out a fire, but hey, what can we do.
Personally, I like tipping. It's my way of rating the service and I like rewarding outstanding service. 15% is standard, 20% for above average, 10% or a couple dollars for bad service, 2 pennies for really bad service, and $10 for awesome service (when dining as a couple). We've only had 2 waitresses that got $10 from my husband and I, though.
Now look at delivery. You pick up a pizza you don't tip. You sit at home on your butt watching TV and someone brings you dinner then you should tip. It is a service. Just like a convienence store where you pay more money for the convienenve. You go to the grocery store and pay more but it's more of a hassle.
I just got back in town and I saw this thread. Wow! There are some really intense replies to this thread! Anyway, I usually tip the person that delivers my pizza at the very least 10% of the total bill. 15% to 20% if they deliver my pizza with a pleasant attitude and friendly service. A waitperson will usually get the same thing from me for the same reasons. However, I did not know that I was supposed to tip persons that deliver anything to me that is non-food. :scratch: That's why I like it here---I learn something new everyday! LOL!
Adiana :smilec: :smilec:
http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php
Tracy (my wife) and I are going to New York with some friends in October so that'll save us from any tipping induced embarrassment !
When we got married 3 years ago we went to Vegas and San Francisco for our honeymoon and the whole tipping thing was just too confusing ! I'm sure we ended up tipping the wrong people and not tipping those that we should as it's just so different to what we do here in the UK!!
Cheers, Adrian.