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I used to like being different, but then a week ago I said 'I'm sick of being different'. And that wasn't something you're likely to hear me say. I do like being different, but not left out...
Even if I am different, I'm somewhat accepted in any circle. Now, my friends from my block(I lived 16 years in the capital, Bucharest,now I live in the countr-side) still miss me , and want me to visit them more often.:D
I remembered a gypsie proverb :" Every one is in the middle of the circle, and no one is at the end of it(border,limit)."
Being a buddhist now, I have to answer questions about karma, rebirth, Buddha and so on. One day , I battled an atheist and I lost because I don't know how to demonstarte the existence of karma. Now, I know( say like feel it) that karma is omnipresent and omnipotent and such.
But how can I demonstrate it's existence ? Any ideas ?
Karma is easy to demonstrate. Prison.
But rebirth is not possible. The atheist will devour you each time.
Perhaps because every monks talk about this? Because it is written that the Buddha talked about this?
The Buddha advised to not believe anything anyone told you, even what the Buddha himself told you.
Perhaps if you investigate by yourself, you may find the answer to all of your questions?
Perhaps because every monks talk about this? Because it is written that the Buddha talked about this?
The Buddha advised to not believe anything anyone told you, even what the Buddha himself told you.
Perhaps if you investigate by yourself, you may find the answer to all of your questions?
I started to believe in karma after some things that really opened my eyes, and from then I started to believe in the existence of karma.
About hearing this concept from the monks, well, in Romania there are virtually only Christian Orthodox monks, who consider Buddha, and the concept of karma something heretical.
So, I found out about karma on my own.
As to not belive in anything that flies, trust me , I don't really believe in the existence of a personal God, and for that, my girlfriend gave me a big Ignore on the messenger list.
If someone battled my beliefs I'd just say 'each to their own'. I'm Unitarian Universalist and I have a pretty open-minded view of all belief systems. I'm not really that religious. I'm pretty close to Buddhism but I believe karma, rebirth, realms, all that, is metaphorical. I believe the bible's metaphorical too. I think everything you hear has a different meaning and should be taken with a good pinch of salt.
I know that. But in my own country if I have the courage to say that I don't really believe in a God, or in other words , to say that I'm an agnostic, then people will treat me like an enemy. This is what happened when I told my girlfriend (the one I try so hard to forget) that "I'm a buddhist rapper who wants peace" . Buddhist meaning agnostic, as I tried to explain her if we have a God or no...
Eek! I didn't know where you live was so religious! You wouldn't want to be dating somebody so close-minded anyway... Surely you can't be the only non-christian?...
Eek! I didn't know where you live was so religious! You wouldn't want to be dating somebody so close-minded anyway... Surely you can't be the only non-christian?...
Well, I was born Christian, but after a conflict with atheists, I converted to Buddhism ( this is just one cause of why I converted).
But in my country, the vast majority of Christians are close-minded and have a Dark Age's mentality regarding non-christians, like me.
And, no, I'm not the only non-christian in my country. The rest of them (especially the girls) are way too older than I am. And on top of that, my gues is that they don't look to date to a Regular Joe (like me).
and from then I started to believe in the existence of karma.
So perhaps instead of believing in karma like one believe in god, you might just want to stay open about the possibility of the existance of karma, and continue your investigation.
You seem to have found information about karma on your own.
Like reading books about Bhuddism, you will find much information, but until you meditate and experience these things for yourself, all of this information will remain intellectual concepts.
Kamma/Karma isn't difficult if you stop thinking it's different from what we already know. Kamma merely represents the conditions, either those we have no control over or those we do. Kamma therefore is "cause" when it affects things; when it is a reason for change.
Dependent Origination (Arising) is the mechanism by which Kamma affects things, thus creating the "cause and effect" as explained by our science. However we differentiate between the types of Kamma so that we can identify how *our* Kamma specifically, whether skillful or unskillful, affects ourselves and others.
Being a buddhist now, I have to answer questions about karma, rebirth, Buddha and so on. One day , I battled an atheist and I lost because I don't know how to demonstarte the existence of karma. Now, I know( say like feel it) that karma is omnipresent and omnipotent and such.
But how can I demonstrate it's existence ? Any ideas ?
Don't fight the logic battle. Karma is everywhere although maybe not as imagined _/\_
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I remembered a gypsie proverb :" Every one is in the middle of the circle, and no one is at the end of it(border,limit)."
But rebirth is not possible. The atheist will devour you each time.
Why do you believe in Karma?
Perhaps because every monks talk about this? Because it is written that the Buddha talked about this?
The Buddha advised to not believe anything anyone told you, even what the Buddha himself told you.
Perhaps if you investigate by yourself, you may find the answer to all of your questions?
I started to believe in karma after some things that really opened my eyes, and from then I started to believe in the existence of karma.
About hearing this concept from the monks, well, in Romania there are virtually only Christian Orthodox monks, who consider Buddha, and the concept of karma something heretical.
So, I found out about karma on my own.
As to not belive in anything that flies, trust me , I don't really believe in the existence of a personal God, and for that, my girlfriend gave me a big Ignore on the messenger list.
Prison ?? Tell me more, if you will...:D
Love & Peace
Jellybean
Well, I was born Christian, but after a conflict with atheists, I converted to Buddhism ( this is just one cause of why I converted).
But in my country, the vast majority of Christians are close-minded and have a Dark Age's mentality regarding non-christians, like me.
And, no, I'm not the only non-christian in my country. The rest of them (especially the girls) are way too older than I am. And on top of that, my gues is that they don't look to date to a Regular Joe (like me).
Since it isn't, since you are seeking a different answer, it mean that you are not convinced by your own findings. So perhaps instead of believing in karma like one believe in god, you might just want to stay open about the possibility of the existance of karma, and continue your investigation. You seem to have found information about karma on your own.
Like reading books about Bhuddism, you will find much information, but until you meditate and experience these things for yourself, all of this information will remain intellectual concepts.
Dependent Origination (Arising) is the mechanism by which Kamma affects things, thus creating the "cause and effect" as explained by our science. However we differentiate between the types of Kamma so that we can identify how *our* Kamma specifically, whether skillful or unskillful, affects ourselves and others.
Love & Peace
Jellybean J**
Don't fight the logic battle. Karma is everywhere although maybe not as imagined _/\_