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Is it possible to cultivate non-suffering if someone else disagrees - afterlife
We have a thread examining whether it is possible to be non-suffering ie peace happy truth if you do not believe in the afterlife...
My question is whether it is possible to be peaceful and happy if somebody else disagrees with you?
I think that it is but that at the same time it is easy to get a little riled up about the issue.
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I think yes, it is:) Though online, maybe not
Nobody can make you angry, peaceful, sad etc... only you can.
only you ever did, even if you never realised.
you will understand this if you practice Buddhist meditation.
Good question, Jeffrey.
I think it is possible to be peaceful and happy if somebody else disagrees with us.
But I do not think is it possible to be peaceful and happy if we identify ourselves with our ideas, or if we are attached to being "right".
If on the other hand we only find contentment if everyone agrees with our belief, whatever our arguments consist of, then we can not find peace. True peace of mind only comes from letting go of the mind's grasping, its seeking of the world to fit with its conceptions and not the other way around.
Beliefs (and in this, even disbelief is a form of belief) are attachments, and just as with anything else, there are varying levels of attachment. If the attachment is strong, it takes much more effort to abandon it. If it is weak, we may not even worry about it until we've made a lot of progress toward liberation already.
The greatest hindrance, however, is in not being able to see that there is an attachment in the first place. That is our ignorance that leads to our dukkha.
IMHO no which is why good Mahayanists believe we all have to get on the boat together.
It depends who the somebody is and what the disagreement is about. If, for example, it's one of our children, or sibling, disagreeing on issues of ethics, like stealing, alcohol abuse, etc... we will naturally be somewhat disturbed. But, on the other hand, say... it's a member on a forum disagreeing with us on some intellectual concepts, then it's no big deal - it should not affect our peace and happiness. Well, this is how I see it.
Even tho i do not know much about Mahayana, this seem to be false as Mahayana would not be relate to Buddhism at all if your statement were true.
No wisdom could be developed either.
No.
Like i answered before,
Nobody can make you angry, peaceful, sad etc... only you can.
only you ever did, even if you never realized.
you will understand and come to this realization yourself if you practice Buddhist meditation.
How so?
I take your point. But even as a practicing lay Buddhist it is not always possible to remain 100% happy and peaceful if someone close to you disagrees with you on something that might get them into trouble or endanger them in some way. There will be some immediate "dis-ease" but, as a Buddhist, one should be able to overcome this quite quickly.
Again, I will agree with you that, once one attains a deeper level of realization into the true nature of things, one can remain happy and peaceful in any circumstances. Unfortunately, I and possibly many others like me, have not YET reached this level of realization.